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Post  dbar Thu May 28, 2015 5:23 am

1st I'm sorry for not posting pics. I've been trying for 3 days & can't wait anymore. these trees need to get planted. I just received some trees I ordered from a nursery who deals with bonsai, although not exclusively. I was quite surprised to see how high the grafts were. I got a Picea glehnii 'Yatsubusa' , which was my reason for ordering in the 1st place, an Abies pinsapo 'Horstmann' , a Pinus thunbergii 'Gyokoho' , an Acer palmatum 'Beni Kawa' , & an Acer palmatum 'Okukji Nishiki'. now the grafts on the maples aren't quite as bad but still not good. as for the others, the graft is BAD!! basically, they have an 8 inch "trunk" of understock with a nasty graft. I have no clue what species the understock is. now what I've read about the topic has been discouraging but I'm hoping there's a solution. I didn't know if I could air layer them, bury them deep to ground layer them, or use a tourniquet? & if any of these options would work, should I grow the new root system above or below the graft? also would it better to plant them and give them time to get established before I do anything with them or would it be better to try & deal with this ass soon as possible? any advice would be greatly appreciated. had I known what I'd receive, I would have saved my $ but... ok thank everyone in advance for your time & advice!

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Post  Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai Thu May 28, 2015 12:36 pm

if it is a reputable nursery, you should be able to return them (at no return shipping cost to you)...

as it is a nursery that deals in bonsai (albeit not exclusively) they were probably aware that they were selling you crap material... and if you are new to the endeavor (just a guess on my part), and made the nursery aware of that, then maybe they thought they could dump said crap material off on someone who might not know better...

i say give 'em hell Twisted Evil
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Post  augustine Thu May 28, 2015 3:12 pm

the maples can be airlayered but not on the same year that they were repotted. I think spruce can be grown from cuttings so it might air layer, I am not sure about the fir and don't think an air layer will work on the pine.

Best of luck,

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Post  M. Frary Fri May 29, 2015 5:29 pm

I know some pines can be layered. JBP but not sure of the variety. The maples can beayered and as mentioned shouldn't be done on a repot year.

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Post  dbar Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:49 am

awesome thanks guys. much appreciated!

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