stone from Slovakia

Peter removes the center underside of a large daiza.

1. Perhaps, the stone needs every bit of depth to sit in the daiza.

2. Perhaps, Peter reduces the chance of warping or cracking as the wood moves by drying, shrinking & curling across-the-grain over time. You see this done in smaller scale on solid-wood Chinese brush pots where a hole in the bottom center is often created when the pot was first hollowed (perhaps even when the wood was not fully dried) and later plugged with a separate piece to return it to full functioning.

3. Perhaps, the daiza has such shallow feet that reducing the middle portion assures that it will not rock from front-to-back causing some feet to lift from a level surface.

Using wood that has been kiln-dried or air dried & sealing it completely after construction of a daiza, I have not seen much problem with warping, but my daiza (& those of club members) are not exceptionally thin when wide. The problem would be worse if using wood left in a humid environment & insufficiently sealed for placement in a dry (heated &/or air-conditioned) space.

Chiara Padrini has displayed a daiza-style seat on the IBC Stone Forum with a false bottom crafted by a Chinese carver. He also crafted a footed table for the stone & its daiza to hide a deep underside which pierced through the table's natural top that was pierced (or socketed). Korean suseok of landscape form are displayed to show to best advantage by hiding the underside no matter how deep the support must be to keep the stone whole.

Why did you remove the hidden underside of your daiza, Peter?

1. Matsuura


2. foto...


81x27cm, 25 kg

What an extraordinary stone surface! Thanks for sharing!!!

At 87cm (~35") long & 27cm (~11" wide) weighing 25kg (~54 lbs.), this is a great stone for exhibition purposes or in sencha-seki taste for more intimate viewing. It will have presence due to its size, gorgeous color & landscape view contour. For me, it is strongly in Daoist taste expressing the energy ("breath" qi or chi) of the universe as manifest in a mountain miniature.

If a stone has a natural bottom but it is questionable, the cut-out underside would be a reasonable reason to allow sharing a view of the stone's bottom while reducing chance of damage. If the stone is cut, I'd rather not be made explicitly aware.

Attaching brightened close-up of Peter's TV screen w/ Matsuura holding a stone whose bottom is visible below the daiza. Perhaps, Peter can share Matsuura's comment on this daiza technique...

These stones from your nation are stunning! The majesty of nature is encased in the stones!

vlado wrote:Hi Chris.
Peter does not use oil or wax. Only leather wheel mounted on drill, without wax.
Peter does not speak in english (yet )

Have a nice day.
Vlado

Are there rules with regards to the use of power tools in suiseki? I understand that suiseki should as natural as possible

padychitan-Hamburger,Hotdog .........posts 31 2010 01 23 +Time 10000:1

Is that you in the picture?Nice black stones, were they polished with that leather attached to a grinder?they look nice.

H2O (foto)

Hi padychitan.
Stones are wet, they are not polished (yet )
Man on the foto is not a Peter.
Peter wants to show to us an area where are many stones (unfortunately there was a many big floods in Slovakia) and this place was flooded.
vlado

thanks for the interpretation Vlado,we also get good stones from our mountain rivers/streams in our country and to the contrary, we feel fortunate when these rivers get high which happens every rainy season because new stones from the mountain are brought to the river banks. after the floods are the best time to collect stones.

20x7,5 cm

Hi Peter, Vlado & Padychitan... I do not understand showing a "wet stone in a daiza" under Japanese-style suiseki practice. I do not understand displaying a stone whose exposed surface has been "mechanically polished" under Japanese-style suiseki practice. Is this an allowance which is acceptable in your stone circles as suiseki practice?

Perhaps the term "wet stone" has not translated well. These "wet stones" look unnaturally processed in daiza. If in trays, the stones should be wet, originally, for (alcove-style) appreciation when drying as viewed by guests in an intimate setting. In exhibit display, trays of stone and sand are allowed to dry for viewing by exhibit visitors, which is not an intimate setting though it should emulate intimate space in a reduced format. There are exceptions, but they are uncommon & do not include exposing daiza to a wet stone other than the moisture an aged stone collects on its surface through exposure to air.

chris-suiseki yoseki-YES!H2o=0!!!! (2010 01 023-yoseki =0-foto H2O)

by vlado on Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:24 am

Hi padychitan.
Stones are wet, they are not polished (yet )
Man on the foto is

Hi cris, what I was asking peterbrod are the stones newly collected from a riverbed, they are not in daizas yet,and vlado tranlated that" the stones are wet and not polished yet"

Is the use of power tools allowed in polishing suiseki? I believe that suiseki should be as natural as possible, only washing with soap and water and acid is allowed.,and that the smoth surface of stone is achieved by rubbing ones hand to stone in a period of many many years, some say 30 to 40 years.

Hi Chris ,
I am sure that Peter does not present wet stones (soaked with water) on daiza, those stones was just picked from field, cleaned with water. Peter has his own style for presentation stones as suiseki. He is skillfull daiza maker and he has many stones for training.
I am prefer an japanese style suiseki ( but unfortunately I do not have enough good material) and I am only beginner in this case.
And finaly , it is posible that my posts are not in a ,,good english,,(sorry) because I did not learn it in school.

Have a nice day.
Vlado

H2O rock polisch oil......= 0 !!!!!!!!!

Hi Vlado.
I like your stones. They’re very nice. The daizas are suitable for your stones.They make stones more beautifull.My daizas,there’re not the ones I really like so much.. Thank you for showing. Have a nice day!

Hi !

I like this stone, specially on the second picture. I like the daiza, very simple....
Congratulation !

mathias

slovak nou biznis-hobby(trantanhung)