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Post  Bon Saiman Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:39 pm

Hi experts could someone help identify my first Bonsai and tell me what it is? In addtion I assume its deciduous tree given all the leaves have started to become dry and cureld as if getting ready to fall? I would like to make sure I haven't killed in a week? please could some advise me? i have photos for further clarity but not sure how to upload?
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Post  bonsaisr Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:00 pm

First of all, please go back to your profile and tell us where you live. We can't advise you without knowing that.
Regardless of ID, unless you live in the Far North, it is not time for deciduous trees to lose their leaves yet.

Where have you been keeping your tree? It should have been outside for the summer. Leave it outdoors in the shade for now.
The most common cause for problems is incorrect watering. Stick your finger into the soil. Only water when the soil underneath is almost dry.
Scratch the bark on your tree. If it is brown underneath, the tree is dead. Get back on the horse & get another tree. If there is a layer of green under the bark, the tree is alive & may recover with proper care.
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Post  Bon Saiman Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:06 pm

profile updated but more to do ...

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Post  Bon Saiman Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:10 pm

I have been keeping my tree outside on the balcony but not in direct sunlight and it has been a little humid the last week or so , I have watered probably once or twice thus far...after scratching thew bark it looks alive , whitish color but fleshy not dry??

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Post  Norma Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:59 pm

Welcome to Bonsai Club,

This is when it gets a bit tough .... when there's a problem with a new bonsai. Please don't be insulted with a few questions we need to know:

When was the tree potted and what kind of soil did you use? Have you recently fertilized the plant? What kind of tree is your bonsai? Iris is correct about over-watering and where you have placed the tree. Could you give us another picture of the tree showing the size of the pot and it's soil surface?

Thanks ... I hope we can help you!

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Post  jrodriguez Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:43 pm

Español bon Saiman,

Me parece que tu árbol en una Pseudocydonia sinensis. Su estado no presenta signos inmediaos de fatalidad, pero parece que la has puesto en un lugar a media sombra y con riego excesivo.

Saludos,

Jose Luis

I think that your tree is a pseudocydonia sinensis. Its present state does not show immediate signs of death, though i suspect that it was placed in a semi-shade location and has been overwatered.

Kind regards,
Jose Luis
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Post  Bon Saiman Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:58 am

Hi all see below photo of pot and soli , I did not pot this its was purcahsed froma garden cnetre as is , needless to say it looked fine in the shop. I think its a case of being in too hot a position but Im still not clerare as to what type of Tree it is? If its a Chinese Quince then leaves look very different from the internet pictures Ive seen and the book i have here????

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Post  Bon Saiman Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:00 am

Sorry one extra piece I wnated to add here which is not apparnet in the photos is that all the leaves are dry and crispy for wnat of better word so I think its about to drop them all??? leaves are dead but tree looks ok???

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Post  Norma Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:52 pm

Thanks for the photo. My guess is that the soil in your pot is not good bonsai soil but looks rather heavy. If the tree belonged to me I would repot with bonsai soil such as lava rock, akadama or haydite, or decomposed granite! This type of soil allows water to run through quickly and keeps the roots from rotting. Before you repot defoliate the tree by cutting the stem of each leaf.

Best of luck...

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