My foreign stones
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Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai
Precarious
riversoul
Young Doan
dick benbow
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Milan Kulhavy
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Andre Beaurain
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Re: My foreign stones
Hi Yvonne... Can we see the stone partially-captured in the photos behind this plateau stone. It it has dark, horizontal stripes & appears to be limestone. Its layered stripes and contour are easily appreciated; likely, it will be much improved by a full viewing... :-)
Chris Cochrane- Member
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Hi chris
I will add the stone to my suisekigallery soon
Kind regards Yvonne
I will add the stone to my suisekigallery soon
Kind regards Yvonne
Guest- Guest
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What is the most important?...I had this tiny japanese stone for 10 years...I just found out, if it was placed difrent in the doban, it would show the very important image of the koi jumping up the waterfall, to finaly become a dragon...the bad thing about the image is that the waterfall contiue on the backside...
This is why I have up to now, used it as a mountainstone with a stream, as the stream does not run to the backside of the stone, but begin were the I found the koiimage...is the koi jumping more important?...what do you think?...I am planning to make a daiza
This way
Or this way
Kind regards Yvonne
This is why I have up to now, used it as a mountainstone with a stream, as the stream does not run to the backside of the stone, but begin were the I found the koiimage...is the koi jumping more important?...what do you think?...I am planning to make a daiza
This way
Or this way
Kind regards Yvonne
Guest- Guest
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Make every effort not to limit the view to one side or the other.
Precarious- Member
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Hi David
There isa lot of air and space in your answer, my guess is noone can answer.
Kind regards Yvonne
There isa lot of air and space in your answer, my guess is noone can answer.
Kind regards Yvonne
Guest- Guest
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Haha how true. Some possible answers to your question are to have it on something round, lighting from multiple angles, and not up against a wall- in other words elements that invite viewing from the dragon side and from the koi side.
Precarious- Member
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are koi known to swim upstream like a salmon ?
i could be wrong, but i thought they prefer calm, placid waters
i could be wrong, but i thought they prefer calm, placid waters
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
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Known as the "koi Coach", I have spent close to 4 decades in the hobby.
so i share some thoughts from my background. A background of having lived in japan for close to 3 years and spent a lifetime of bring involved in their culture.
As a Student of japanese culture, Koi are Carp and as such are known for their strength. legend has it about the waterfall and turning into a dragon. You see lots of Koi banners flown on Boy's day in Japan with the hopes that sons grow up strong.
As a student of japanese rules in bonsai and suiseki display, It's helpful to understand their standards. The fact the "stream" continues around to the other side is a No-no. But the chances of getting a carp beginning their travels to the top of the waterfall is a once in a life time find.
Cherish the stone for what it is. You'll never find a better one to illustrate the strength of koi-carp.
when you study the concepts of Wabi-Sabi, you can appreciate that nothing in our existence is perfect, but if it has age and appeal, it can AND SHOULD BE be appreciated!
so i share some thoughts from my background. A background of having lived in japan for close to 3 years and spent a lifetime of bring involved in their culture.
As a Student of japanese culture, Koi are Carp and as such are known for their strength. legend has it about the waterfall and turning into a dragon. You see lots of Koi banners flown on Boy's day in Japan with the hopes that sons grow up strong.
As a student of japanese rules in bonsai and suiseki display, It's helpful to understand their standards. The fact the "stream" continues around to the other side is a No-no. But the chances of getting a carp beginning their travels to the top of the waterfall is a once in a life time find.
Cherish the stone for what it is. You'll never find a better one to illustrate the strength of koi-carp.
when you study the concepts of Wabi-Sabi, you can appreciate that nothing in our existence is perfect, but if it has age and appeal, it can AND SHOULD BE be appreciated!
dick benbow- Member
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Hi David
You may not know the image of the "koi jumping up the waterfall to finaly become a dragon", the red color represent the fish
It is the same side of the stone that is being used for both the landskapestone, and the fish turning into a dragon.
It is not so much how to show the stone, but more about what is most important...to have a fairly correct suiseki, with a stream image, you can find here and there...or a very rare found important image, with a not perfect backside of the stone.
Kind regards Yvonne
You may not know the image of the "koi jumping up the waterfall to finaly become a dragon", the red color represent the fish
It is the same side of the stone that is being used for both the landskapestone, and the fish turning into a dragon.
It is not so much how to show the stone, but more about what is most important...to have a fairly correct suiseki, with a stream image, you can find here and there...or a very rare found important image, with a not perfect backside of the stone.
Kind regards Yvonne
Guest- Guest
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Hi Dick
you say...Cherish the stone for what it is. You'll never find a better one to illustrate the strength of koi-carp....
Nice to hear an/your opinion.
Kind regards Yvonne
you say...Cherish the stone for what it is. You'll never find a better one to illustrate the strength of koi-carp....
Nice to hear an/your opinion.
Kind regards Yvonne
Guest- Guest
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dick - thanks for explaining some of the extrapolation involved.
it is interesting, but i am not afraid to say that it is perhaps beyond the ken of my western mind
it is interesting, but i am not afraid to say that it is perhaps beyond the ken of my western mind
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
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I understood the side with the koi, and perhaps among some in this country could relate in terms of salmon. In the second and third picture I mistakenly thought the stone had the same side down in the sand and we were looking at the back. If that were the case it would be easy to see the front and back as earlier and later instead. Please forgive my muddying up the discussion. I can see it is a very meaningful stone.
Precarious- Member
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No problem David
we can all make mistakes, and misunderstand.
Kind regards Yvonne
we can all make mistakes, and misunderstand.
Kind regards Yvonne
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Last edited by Yvonne Graubaek on Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:54 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : new photo)
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I know very little about viewing-stones but I can appreciate it and also the work that goes into the daiza.
Last edited by milly.a on Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:21 pm; edited 1 time in total
milly.a- Member
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milly.a wrote:I know very little about viewing-stones but I can appreciate it and also the work that goes into the daize.
Dear Milly, saying that tell me you are a stonelover.
Some stones would be less nice if they were rubbed, some can't have enough...and some just need the right amount of rubbing to bring out the nice contrasts...just like this one
kind regards Yvonne
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