Suiseki Tunnel Stone Domon-ishi
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Re: Suiseki Tunnel Stone Domon-ishi
I really like the stone in the third picture! The way the daiza is indented is to draw your eye into the opening as if you were being drawn by the current along the shore to be drifted thru
I like the small feet on the daiza of the last pictured stone. I bet that was a difficult daiza to design trying to match with the heavy low profile of the stone. thanks for sharing
I like the small feet on the daiza of the last pictured stone. I bet that was a difficult daiza to design trying to match with the heavy low profile of the stone. thanks for sharing
dick benbow- Member
Re: Suiseki Tunnel Stone Domon-ishi
Hi Dick Benbowdick benbow wrote:I really like the stone in the third picture! The way the daiza is indented is to draw your eye into the opening as if you were being drawn by the current along the shore to be drifted thru
I like the small feet on the daiza of the last pictured stone. I bet that was a difficult daiza to design trying to match with the heavy low profile of the stone. thanks for sharing
Thank you for your commends. You are right the last picture is the difficult daiza.
Last edited by HuuHiep on Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:15 am; edited 1 time in total
HuuHiep- Member
Re: Suiseki Tunnel Stone Domon-ishi
Hi Lennard,lennard wrote:Beautiful stones.
Thanks for posting.
Lennard
Thank you for your comments
HuuHiep- Member
Re: Suiseki Tunnel Stone Domon-ishi
Hello HuuhHiep
I think you mean YUMI-ISHI Arch stone?,
or HASHIGATA-ISHI Bridge Shaped Stone?
because DUMON-ISHI is just a little bit different
I think you mean YUMI-ISHI Arch stone?,
or HASHIGATA-ISHI Bridge Shaped Stone?
because DUMON-ISHI is just a little bit different
stonener- Member
Re: Suiseki Tunnel Stone Domon-ishi
Hi Stonener,stonener wrote:Hello HuuhHiep
I think you mean YUMI-ISHI Arch stone?,
or HASHIGATA-ISHI Bridge Shaped Stone?
because DUMON-ISHI is just a little bit different,
cave has floor and can not see back way out.
Please let me share here what I think
This is an agate, it has a cave, can see in but not out!
I put over light so can see inside easy.
Thank you for your comments.
But I mean DOMON-ishi for tunnel stone and natural arch stone not "DUMON-ishi". I found that in the books of Willi Benz [SUISEKI The Asian Art of Beautiful Strone] and Yuji Yoshimura [The Japanese Art of Stone Appreciation]. Do me a favour and show me more information about these. You are quite right that the cave can in and dark the end. But I considered and enjoyed above stones as the tunnels not Bridge except the fourth.
Thank you for your sharing the pictures of the Agate cave. It is very interesting I like it so much the red color.
HuuHiep- Member
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My Friend when I realized I was talking about cave and not tunnel like your were,
I removed most of the posting and pictures of the agate also...
But you were to fast and saw before.
I do not want to offend anyone with what I think, forgive my ignorance...
I too use books as guide for names and a chart also.
SUISEKI The Japanese Art of Miniature Landscape Stones
by Felix G. Rivera, STONE BRIDGE PRESS, Berkeley, California
and yes spelled as you say.
My Chart is by Jack I. Dennis, Research & Documentation 06/01/06 - 07/01/08
were most of my information on names comes from and Tunnel Stone is spelled
DUMON-ISHI, But no problem, we both are talking about the same thing...
In your last stone pictured I do see a tunnel, but with a bridge or arch on top,
so maybe both, could be double classification not really sure.? I could be wrong.
Please let me now show you what I see is a tunnel on a California Jade stone.
Which I understand should have stone floor from front to back, but not by daiza.
Remember my friend this is all just for fun learning and happy talk,
I try hard to be sure of what I write, but in a good way...
In my humble opinion I think tunnel also is low on mountain so cars, tucks and trains can run though it?...
I removed most of the posting and pictures of the agate also...
But you were to fast and saw before.
I do not want to offend anyone with what I think, forgive my ignorance...
I too use books as guide for names and a chart also.
SUISEKI The Japanese Art of Miniature Landscape Stones
by Felix G. Rivera, STONE BRIDGE PRESS, Berkeley, California
and yes spelled as you say.
My Chart is by Jack I. Dennis, Research & Documentation 06/01/06 - 07/01/08
were most of my information on names comes from and Tunnel Stone is spelled
DUMON-ISHI, But no problem, we both are talking about the same thing...
In your last stone pictured I do see a tunnel, but with a bridge or arch on top,
so maybe both, could be double classification not really sure.? I could be wrong.
Please let me now show you what I see is a tunnel on a California Jade stone.
Which I understand should have stone floor from front to back, but not by daiza.
Remember my friend this is all just for fun learning and happy talk,
I try hard to be sure of what I write, but in a good way...
In my humble opinion I think tunnel also is low on mountain so cars, tucks and trains can run though it?...
Last edited by stonener on Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:17 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : take the foot out of my mouth)
stonener- Member
Re: Suiseki Tunnel Stone Domon-ishi
Dear my friend, Stonener,
I think, my friend, this is all just for fun learning and happy talk, like you.
No problems about the words are diffrent in spelling. And I also try my best to be sure of what I write could not make you misunderstand me.
I am very interested in learning about suiseki. Forgive me for my recent request. I am a Vietnamese and English is a second language, that is an obstacle to communicate with foreigners. Misunderstandings often happen in anyway
Back our talking,
This is tunnel stone.
They are Arch stones
And this is Arch Stone and Bridge on the top
Are they correct?
Thank you for your useful information.
Best wishes,
HuuHiep
I think, my friend, this is all just for fun learning and happy talk, like you.
No problems about the words are diffrent in spelling. And I also try my best to be sure of what I write could not make you misunderstand me.
I am very interested in learning about suiseki. Forgive me for my recent request. I am a Vietnamese and English is a second language, that is an obstacle to communicate with foreigners. Misunderstandings often happen in anyway
Back our talking,
This is tunnel stone.
They are Arch stones
And this is Arch Stone and Bridge on the top
Are they correct?
Thank you for your useful information.
Best wishes,
HuuHiep
HuuHiep- Member
Re: Suiseki Tunnel Stone Domon-ishi
My Friend! I could not do as you do, to speak a second language,
seams impossible for me and I understand many details are lost in translations.
but let us try hard not to have this problem, as another person has...
First Let me say that "I love your stones" every single one
They have always been top quality in my opinion...
and I would be proud to own anyone of the many you have shared as you know.
But with these I have, as Dick points out, notice improvements in Daiza construction...
designs that maybe someday I too would like to achieve?
Ok let's talk...
This topic is a new one to me and I enjoy the learning very much!.
As you say I think is right, but two stones have two important double features...
so as you say, 3rd is Bridge over arch, but 4th looks like arch over tunnel.
I am not sure if they can be double classification, why not I would think?
I know some things that are in double category's hybrids like dogs, snakes and fish...
So I will ask my Sensei's and get back to you with what they say.
I'm also sure Japanese suiseki rules have already the established answer,
this I would think not the first time this question has happened, for sure!...
see here IMHO two stones again with double features...
as you say bridge over arch, fantastic!
"except" as you say fourth one, arch over tunnel, amazing
I am not sure of what I think so I will research more to be sure!
Please let me know too, if you hear more information from others...
seams impossible for me and I understand many details are lost in translations.
but let us try hard not to have this problem, as another person has...
First Let me say that "I love your stones" every single one
They have always been top quality in my opinion...
and I would be proud to own anyone of the many you have shared as you know.
But with these I have, as Dick points out, notice improvements in Daiza construction...
designs that maybe someday I too would like to achieve?
Ok let's talk...
This topic is a new one to me and I enjoy the learning very much!.
As you say I think is right, but two stones have two important double features...
so as you say, 3rd is Bridge over arch, but 4th looks like arch over tunnel.
I am not sure if they can be double classification, why not I would think?
I know some things that are in double category's hybrids like dogs, snakes and fish...
So I will ask my Sensei's and get back to you with what they say.
I'm also sure Japanese suiseki rules have already the established answer,
this I would think not the first time this question has happened, for sure!...
see here IMHO two stones again with double features...
as you say bridge over arch, fantastic!
"except" as you say fourth one, arch over tunnel, amazing
I am not sure of what I think so I will research more to be sure!
Please let me know too, if you hear more information from others...
Last edited by stonener on Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:36 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : trying to get it right)
stonener- Member
Re: Suiseki Tunnel Stone Domon-ishi
MY FRIEND!
Thank you for your nice words for my stones
I agree what you say all
We all come to IBC to share with members what we know and learn what we unknown.
I will be back this topic If I have more information.
Best wishes,
Hiep
Thank you for your nice words for my stones
I agree what you say all
We all come to IBC to share with members what we know and learn what we unknown.
I will be back this topic If I have more information.
Best wishes,
Hiep
HuuHiep- Member
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