to daiza or not to daiza...
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kdurais
Mark
Chris Cochrane
sunip
trantanhung_nt
peterbrod
ang3lfir3
dick benbow
stonener
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I agree With you ...
Hello My Friends - Stonener ,
Hello My Friends - Members IBC Forum ,
His method of cutting stone Mr. Chris is recommended proposal is really perfect ,
But you did not cut the stone , I agree with you because the stone - work is not cut and full of surprises .
Hope you are happy with this Stone - work .
Sincerely ,
Hưng - Trần .
Hello My Friends - Members IBC Forum ,
His method of cutting stone Mr. Chris is recommended proposal is really perfect ,
But you did not cut the stone , I agree with you because the stone - work is not cut and full of surprises .
Hope you are happy with this Stone - work .
Sincerely ,
Hưng - Trần .
trantanhung_nt- Member
Re: to daiza or not to daiza...
Hi Stonener
I like your red stone with a white waterfall very much....the collor is awesome.
This daiza you made, would not have been my choise....sorry....Is the daiza made of wood?


I would want a much darker, dry brown collor...also do I think the rim you gave the daiza is much to wild, it could easily have been kept much more quiet. A profilerim held in a exact high all the way arround, could have made the daiza look lower, and give the eye a place to rest.
Kind regards Yvonne
I like your red stone with a white waterfall very much....the collor is awesome.
This daiza you made, would not have been my choise....sorry....Is the daiza made of wood?


I would want a much darker, dry brown collor...also do I think the rim you gave the daiza is much to wild, it could easily have been kept much more quiet. A profilerim held in a exact high all the way arround, could have made the daiza look lower, and give the eye a place to rest.
Kind regards Yvonne
Guest- Guest
no cuts for me
whassup! My friend Hung!
Thank You!, for you agree with me...
Natural is always better way for stone.
see here your way in suiban...

cool summer feeling, as if swimming...
Thank You!, for you agree with me...

Natural is always better way for stone.
see here your way in suiban...


cool summer feeling, as if swimming...

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stonener- Member
seeing what you say
Thank You! Ms Yvonne,
Yes wood, but painted to give shiny wet look
I understand your suggestions!, there great!...
I will use them for sure! Please see here.
What you think of this next project,
your idea's in advance will save much heartache...
Master Peter! What say you?

nature has already cut this one...
Yes wood, but painted to give shiny wet look
I understand your suggestions!, there great!...

I will use them for sure! Please see here.
What you think of this next project,
your idea's in advance will save much heartache...

Master Peter! What say you?


nature has already cut this one...

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stonener- Member
this was a "no brainier"
Only one way to hold up stone for viewing,
special find IMO, naturally beautiful river polished nugget.
I see an animal on each side? you?
Solid cherry wood daiza, natural color to bring out honey color in stone.
TORIGAT-ISHI, & SARUGATA-ISHI 4.5x 5.5x 2" "Candy Jade"


special find IMO, naturally beautiful river polished nugget.
I see an animal on each side? you?
Solid cherry wood daiza, natural color to bring out honey color in stone.
TORIGAT-ISHI, & SARUGATA-ISHI 4.5x 5.5x 2" "Candy Jade"



stonener- Member
Re: to daiza or not to daiza...
Hello My Friend STONENER ,
Mr. Peterbtod guided you ... can do a nice DAIZA for your stone ... ( I noticed that , what do you think about this ? )
On SUIBAN for this stone , I think : there must be a layer of sand containing in SUIBAN ... so you can sink deep into the stone in the sand and fully unfolded a beautiful mountain road above the sand ... ( I think so , you may want to test this ? )
Thank you your share .
Regards ,
Hưng - Trần .
Mr. Peterbtod guided you ... can do a nice DAIZA for your stone ... ( I noticed that , what do you think about this ? )
On SUIBAN for this stone , I think : there must be a layer of sand containing in SUIBAN ... so you can sink deep into the stone in the sand and fully unfolded a beautiful mountain road above the sand ... ( I think so , you may want to test this ? )
Thank you your share .
Regards ,
Hưng - Trần .
trantanhung_nt- Member
I see what you say
Sensei Peter!
Arigato Gozaimasu!
I hear your red lines...
OK Hung! will try sand,
under stone, not fill...
Arigato Gozaimasu!
I hear your red lines...

OK Hung! will try sand,
under stone, not fill...

stonener- Member
another flat bottom
As I really like to display my stones on nothing but a jiita,
a flat board plain and simple, hiding nothing!
I have been told that a stone without a daiza is "NAKED!"
Well at home I will continue naked, but for display,
here is daiza...
Hey Sunip do you see, theater play?

front & back SUGATA MOYO-ISHI 5 X 6.75 X 2.75" CALIFORNIA RIVER JASPER
a flat board plain and simple, hiding nothing!
I have been told that a stone without a daiza is "NAKED!"
Well at home I will continue naked, but for display,
here is daiza...

Hey Sunip do you see, theater play?


front & back SUGATA MOYO-ISHI 5 X 6.75 X 2.75" CALIFORNIA RIVER JASPER
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stonener- Member
Re: to daiza or not to daiza...
[quote="stonener"]
Hey Sunip do you see, theater play?

SUGATA MOYO-ISHI 5 X 6.75 X 2.75" CALIFORNIA RIVER JASPER
Hello Stoner,
thanks for showing.
Nice stone with intriguing patterns and lovely color.
The patterns evoking a lot for me not yet emerged phenomenon.
As you suggest a figure stone;
i see in this picture a figure covering the head under the robe and hiding behind the raised sleeve
by making this dramatic and secretive gesture the robe is showing the image of a sitting demon.
Sunip
Hey Sunip do you see, theater play?

SUGATA MOYO-ISHI 5 X 6.75 X 2.75" CALIFORNIA RIVER JASPER
Hello Stoner,
thanks for showing.
Nice stone with intriguing patterns and lovely color.
The patterns evoking a lot for me not yet emerged phenomenon.
As you suggest a figure stone;
i see in this picture a figure covering the head under the robe and hiding behind the raised sleeve
by making this dramatic and secretive gesture the robe is showing the image of a sitting demon.
Sunip

sunip- Member
Arisaema triphyllum
This is one that I would not have made a daiza for ether.
has a nice flat bottom, sits up perfectly on it's own.
Tried natural wood color but just not right, daiza seen 1st
so painted it black, but now makes stone look grey!
but not art without it...
SHOKUBUTSU MOYO-ISHI Ca. River Serpentine 6.75 x 9.25 x 3"

*jack in the pulpit*
has a nice flat bottom, sits up perfectly on it's own.
Tried natural wood color but just not right, daiza seen 1st
so painted it black, but now makes stone look grey!
but not art without it...

SHOKUBUTSU MOYO-ISHI Ca. River Serpentine 6.75 x 9.25 x 3"

*jack in the pulpit*
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stonener- Member
Re: to daiza or not to daiza...
Please see here my latest work.
80ibs California Big Sur Jade.
"Nora Nora" 12.5 x 11 x 8.5"

before and after, what say you?
80ibs California Big Sur Jade.
"Nora Nora" 12.5 x 11 x 8.5"


before and after, what say you?
stonener- Member
Re: to daiza or not to daiza...
Hello Stonener,
That is a big stone, something over 30 cm and over 30 kg?
Like the previous one with the color of that mysterious flower, this one has a deep color as well.
It is a bit difficult reading from the pictures, can you show us a more frontal view?
Sunip
That is a big stone, something over 30 cm and over 30 kg?
Like the previous one with the color of that mysterious flower, this one has a deep color as well.
It is a bit difficult reading from the pictures, can you show us a more frontal view?
Sunip

sunip- Member
Re: to daiza or not to daiza...
Sunip "Thank You" my friend for your inquiry.
Stone as of today at Aiseki Kai Annual Suiseki Exhibition.
I will post full frontal views as soon as possible,
of both daiza and Stone
Stone as of today at Aiseki Kai Annual Suiseki Exhibition.
I will post full frontal views as soon as possible,
of both daiza and Stone
stonener- Member
Re: to daiza or not to daiza...
I am really excited about this one!
most traditional one I've made yet,
lots of difficult hand work done.
what say you?...
stonener

most traditional one I've made yet,
lots of difficult hand work done.
what say you?...
stonener


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stonener- Member
Re: to daiza or not to daiza...
Hello Stonener.
It is a pleasure contemplating this nice stone and
really good daiza work.
Is it a jade stone and collected by yourself?
When i am allowed to share a few of my thoughts;
I would try to make the feet smaller, less heavier, (narrower and less high) this way the daiza will get stronger.
( personally i would go further then i showed in the virtual)
The one indicated with the red line, i would see if it could have more emphasis to the left.
The color can be darker, no need to be afraid the black stone will get less black
if there is a bit red in the color (ofcours not to dark).
Lovely grain but let it get not to dominant.
When one side of the stone is a bit higher and the daiza has to level this out to reach the horizontal table floor it is standing on,
a line between the horizontal bottom line and the up going line of the top of the daiza can be helpful
to make the daiza a bit less heavy and prominent and to create a natural feeling for the horizon.
But it depends, the proportions have to be right and it should have a natural feeling and not attract to much the attention
otherwise it will show as an additional and artificial element, and the option without this levelling line is to be preferred.
Maybe i can live without this line but the feet and the color i would work on.
Just my humble thoughts seeing only this picture, see what others feel.
Sunip

It is a pleasure contemplating this nice stone and
really good daiza work.
Is it a jade stone and collected by yourself?
When i am allowed to share a few of my thoughts;
I would try to make the feet smaller, less heavier, (narrower and less high) this way the daiza will get stronger.
( personally i would go further then i showed in the virtual)
The one indicated with the red line, i would see if it could have more emphasis to the left.
The color can be darker, no need to be afraid the black stone will get less black
if there is a bit red in the color (ofcours not to dark).

When one side of the stone is a bit higher and the daiza has to level this out to reach the horizontal table floor it is standing on,
a line between the horizontal bottom line and the up going line of the top of the daiza can be helpful
to make the daiza a bit less heavy and prominent and to create a natural feeling for the horizon.
But it depends, the proportions have to be right and it should have a natural feeling and not attract to much the attention
otherwise it will show as an additional and artificial element, and the option without this levelling line is to be preferred.
Maybe i can live without this line but the feet and the color i would work on.
Just my humble thoughts seeing only this picture, see what others feel.
Sunip


sunip- Member
Re: to daiza or not to daiza...
Sunip! Thank You for your time and suggestions.
I totally agree they would be positive improvements,
will take lots of courage at this point to make changes.
Feet no problem done, also the color change was planed,
but leveling horizontal plain will be dangerous for me!
Great Ideas! hopefully I can man up...
stonener
*no pain no gain*
I totally agree they would be positive improvements,
will take lots of courage at this point to make changes.
Feet no problem done, also the color change was planed,
but leveling horizontal plain will be dangerous for me!
Great Ideas! hopefully I can man up...
stonener
*no pain no gain*
stonener- Member
Re: to daiza or not to daiza...
Stonener
Looks great to me,kind flavor my grandpa when he was alive laying on his back.the head is a dead ringer.
Looks great to me,kind flavor my grandpa when he was alive laying on his back.the head is a dead ringer.

whisper38- Member
Re: to daiza or not to daiza...
Sunip-san
Stone is not jade nor found by me, Oh how I wish!
I'm just making the daiza for my best bonsai buddy.
This suiseki is from Japan and has some priory history.
My plans are to create a completely traditional daiza.
Thanks for your interest...
Great!...poole,
"Grandpa" sounds like a perfect name,
for your viewing stone.
welcome to the wonderful world of suiseki!
Enjoy the journey...
Sensei PETER
Thank You for the "red lines" I understand them,
but deeper will not be possible, this at point.
Japanese style's are very shallow, which start at down rolled edge of stone
no more wood left inside of the daiza to remove, as thin as possible now.
Stone although mostly worked flat, not level and mountain tops tilt.
see here naked stone...
stonener



pictured left to right- front, left side, back, right side, top
Stone is not jade nor found by me, Oh how I wish!
I'm just making the daiza for my best bonsai buddy.
This suiseki is from Japan and has some priory history.
My plans are to create a completely traditional daiza.
Thanks for your interest...
Great!...poole,
"Grandpa" sounds like a perfect name,
for your viewing stone.
welcome to the wonderful world of suiseki!
Enjoy the journey...
Sensei PETER
Thank You for the "red lines" I understand them,
but deeper will not be possible, this at point.
Japanese style's are very shallow, which start at down rolled edge of stone
no more wood left inside of the daiza to remove, as thin as possible now.
Stone although mostly worked flat, not level and mountain tops tilt.
see here naked stone...
stonener





pictured left to right- front, left side, back, right side, top
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stonener- Member
Re: to daiza or not to daiza...
Wow Sunip!
Now that is really something to think about.
brings to mind a talk on my grandfathers ranch.
"son do not dangle below the seat, black widows"
I will also carefully consider your suggestion.
and Thank You my friend for your kindness...
stonener
Now that is really something to think about.
brings to mind a talk on my grandfathers ranch.
"son do not dangle below the seat, black widows"
I will also carefully consider your suggestion.
and Thank You my friend for your kindness...
stonener
stonener- Member
Re: to daiza or not to daiza...
Hello my friend Stonener ,
Your stone is great for me ... and you should pay more attention to the opinions of friends and try my best to make for it a best daiza...
Thank you and congratulate you .
Sincerely ,
Hưng - Trần .
Your stone is great for me ... and you should pay more attention to the opinions of friends and try my best to make for it a best daiza...
Thank you and congratulate you .
Sincerely ,
Hưng - Trần .
trantanhung_nt- Member
Re: to daiza or not to daiza...
Jag.....very nice work my friend, Carving is not for the weak.
That is a powerfull daiza.
Love and light
That is a powerfull daiza.
Love and light
Andre Beaurain- Member
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