2 American Larch styled
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Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai
M. Frary
Leo Schordje
spinnikm
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Re: 2 American Larch styled
Larch typically are one of the early trees to break dormancy. If you are going to repot, you should do it right now. If there is any green poking out of the buds, it is too late to repot.
You repot only when there is a reason to repot. For example, when soil isn't draining because either it is bad soil or roots have filled the pot. Or to work the roots to improve nebari, or change the angle of a tree or change pots. Growers who use inert media will often leave the larch without repotting for 5 or more years, 10 years is not unheard of. The year you repot, do no further work on the tree for about 12 months after repotting. Wait until you see vigorous growth. If you did heavy root work it can be a 24 month wait for vigorous growth.
Looks like you wired and pruned pretty hard. I would consider waiting a year or two before repotting. Get a nice flush of vigorous growth first.
If your horticulture is at "master level" you might get away with repotting now, but for us mere mortals, I'd go slow. If aftercare is less than perfect you can loose larches due to doing too much in one season without recovery time.
You repot only when there is a reason to repot. For example, when soil isn't draining because either it is bad soil or roots have filled the pot. Or to work the roots to improve nebari, or change the angle of a tree or change pots. Growers who use inert media will often leave the larch without repotting for 5 or more years, 10 years is not unheard of. The year you repot, do no further work on the tree for about 12 months after repotting. Wait until you see vigorous growth. If you did heavy root work it can be a 24 month wait for vigorous growth.
Looks like you wired and pruned pretty hard. I would consider waiting a year or two before repotting. Get a nice flush of vigorous growth first.
If your horticulture is at "master level" you might get away with repotting now, but for us mere mortals, I'd go slow. If aftercare is less than perfect you can loose larches due to doing too much in one season without recovery time.
Leo Schordje- Member
Re: 2 American Larch styled
Leo, thanks for the tips. If i'm being honest with myself, one of the main reasons I want to repot is to get them out of the big ugly wooden boxes. I also would like to start working on the roots because when I collected them I left all as much root as I could. Im going to wait a year for sure on the smaller one but I may slip pot the bigger one into a smaller wooden box. I put it in too big of a box after collection and it seems to be holding too much moisture.
spinnikm- Member
Re: 2 American Larch styled
These things pump out roots. I've had trees I've collected be rootbound in less than 2 years.
You can do rootwork,collecting up until the buds show a green dot.
You can do rootwork,collecting up until the buds show a green dot.
M. Frary- Member
Re: 2 American Larch styled
well... now i know how i killed mine last year... too much too soon...
i was under the impression they could take more...
i was under the impression they could take more...
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
Re: 2 American Larch styled
Check the AAC blog for my submission entitled...."Tappin' o' Tamarack" to see a larch repot from last April.
"Too much too soon" doesn't sound very Larch-ish....though I did lose a branch this winter.
Suspect it was from an ill-planned, boozed up, trunk bending experiment.....
http://www.arborartscollective.blogspot.com/
"Too much too soon" doesn't sound very Larch-ish....though I did lose a branch this winter.
Suspect it was from an ill-planned, boozed up, trunk bending experiment.....
http://www.arborartscollective.blogspot.com/
LanceMac10- Member
Re: 2 American Larch styled
lance - you can do a direct link to a specific post by opening the post before copying the url thingy
heres the post you referred to... i remembered that post but thought there was more to it...
http://arborartscollective.blogspot.com/2015/04/tappin-o-tamarack.html
and here is the one i believe i commited arborcide on...
http://www.arborartscollective.blogspot.com/#!http://arborartscollective.blogspot.com/2015/04/well.html
havent pitched it out just yet, but...
heres the post you referred to... i remembered that post but thought there was more to it...
http://arborartscollective.blogspot.com/2015/04/tappin-o-tamarack.html
and here is the one i believe i commited arborcide on...
http://www.arborartscollective.blogspot.com/#!http://arborartscollective.blogspot.com/2015/04/well.html
havent pitched it out just yet, but...
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
Re: 2 American Larch styled
I think I may repot one and leave the other for another season and then report back on the results. Both of these have roots coming out of the drainage holes.
spinnikm- Member
Re: 2 American Larch styled
Today. Nowhere as advanced as yours.
Totally annihilated the root ball. Lots of thick, circling roots. I didn't leave much, and it didn't do too much top growing last year. But it's still alive!
Steaks for scale....and grillin'...
Repot...
Where most would stop, I guess....
Not me....
Need to get one with some girth, like your'n.....
Totally annihilated the root ball. Lots of thick, circling roots. I didn't leave much, and it didn't do too much top growing last year. But it's still alive!
Steaks for scale....and grillin'...
Repot...
Where most would stop, I guess....
Not me....
Need to get one with some girth, like your'n.....
LanceMac10- Member
Re: 2 American Larch styled
don't you think you were a bit too late with the repotting?
generally (late) winter is good up untill the buds are swelling and starting to turn yellow/green..
repotting when the buds are already open and than bare-rooting the tree might not have been the best of ideas..
hope it works out..
generally (late) winter is good up untill the buds are swelling and starting to turn yellow/green..
repotting when the buds are already open and than bare-rooting the tree might not have been the best of ideas..
hope it works out..
Cronic- Member
Re: 2 American Larch styled
Cronic wrote:don't you think you were a bit too late with the repotting?
generally (late) winter is good up untill the buds are swelling and starting to turn yellow/green..
repotting when the buds are already open and than bare-rooting the tree might not have been the best of ideas..
hope it works out..
Repotted last year....I see you didn't look at "Tappin' o' Tamarack"
LanceMac10- Member
Re: 2 American Larch styled
Hi,
European steak portions are half this size!
... And repotting at this stage of developement should still be OK, though repotting a bit earlier keeps you on the safe side.
LanceMac10 wrote:
Steaks for scale....
European steak portions are half this size!
... And repotting at this stage of developement should still be OK, though repotting a bit earlier keeps you on the safe side.
AlainK- Member
Re: 2 American Larch styled
AlainK wrote:Hi,LanceMac10 wrote:
Steaks for scale....
European steak portions are half this size!
... And repotting at this stage of developement should still be OK, though repotting a bit earlier keeps you on the safe side.
1.88 meters at a touch over 88 kilos......that size steak is a light snack!!!
LanceMac10- Member
Re: 2 American Larch styled
LanceMac10 wrote:
(...) 1.88 meters at a touch over 88 kilos......that size steak is a light snack!!!
We've got something in common: I also weigh 88 kilos - though only 1m78, i'm from a poor family and we didn't eat meat every day you know. But wait until you're 60+ like me and after years of meat and potatoes and Guinness, you'll see
Why do you fat Americans hate us?
OK, let's cut this jocular conversation here, Mojo man, some might take it seriously
AlainK- Member
Re: 2 American Larch styled
I don't know if Larix Decidua responds in the same way Larix Laricina does, or Kemphrii (sp?), I have harvested these trees from the wild in August while if full growth.
Vance Wood- Member
Re: 2 American Larch styled
How's it going squirt?LanceMac10 wrote:AlainK wrote:Hi,LanceMac10 wrote:
Steaks for scale....
European steak portions are half this size!
... And repotting at this stage of developement should still be OK, though repotting a bit earlier keeps you on the safe side.
1.88 meters at a touch over 88 kilos......that size steak is a light snack!!!
M. Frary- Member
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