Knot pine style

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Thanks for your answers Law. I'm very curious and excited about this project.

If you really want to be controversial Law you can keep a pet rabbit in the cage or perhaps a Hello Kitty - Japanese culture behind bars!

Hi Law, in your picture you had the "cocoon pot" facing the other way. Have you changed your mind?
Cheers, Dario.

Actually, with this kind of display, that's a different kettle of fish, I might even change my mind: I still find your treatment of the pine is going too far, but with the metal parts and a "macraméed tree" (sorry, I couldn't resist ) as a suspended living thing, it would become an art performance, or "installation".

I remember seeing an exhibition of much more "naturalistic" trees (Walter Pall and ... ? ...) with abstract paintings, and I liked it a lot.

With this kind of setting, you're arousing my curiosity: you score one point

To conclude (for the moment) : I think that if your pine was to be displayed as a "bonsa¨", I mean in a traditional display:

If it's part of a larger concept, well...

BTW, have a look at what this artist does:

NILS UDO

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Dario wrote:Hi Law, in your picture you had the "cocoon pot" facing the other way. Have you changed your mind?
Cheers, Dario.

I draw before i built so sometime things are changing during the work. But i will use the two faces, i've writed it, one face classic and the other less, in the other side i made the cocoon a little bit more... destroy so i will use this part to be more creative in the branches. Probably mooving inside and outside the iron. It depend of how i can adjust the pine inside the pot.

It's an evolutive display so there's many possibilities. Have to wait for few month now before transplanting it, i guess other ideas are going to come during this wait...[/quote

First it was a simple table for bonsaï that i trnsformed to use with this pine. But i can use the both, the gibbet is fixed with simple bolts in the back.

Thanks for your reply Law.
I look forward to seeing it when it is potted up.
Cheers, Dario.

"Don't let the "rules" limit your idea and imagination... "

Robert Steven

After one season growing in it's new home.

To be continue.

Fun!! I like it Law!!
Tona

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Miss the modern kakemono that i've not done for the moment (still thinking about the text), little modifications on the gibbet and the conch, let grow the tree for one or two seasons and then it will probably be ready for an exhibition. Wait and see.


A kind of iron wood flying scot pine :
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I love the tree shape right now at the moment. However the extravagant pot doesn't fit well to my eyes. For me doesn't support the message of the tree. That's just my taste.  

I know I may be commenting on the fashion statement of the King showing off his new clothes. I absolutely love the tree but I hate what you have done to it. That is of course just my opinion and means almost nothing, you obviously know what you are doing. My problem is that the container/pot/thing you have the tree planted in totally steals the attention away from a beautiful tree that deserves it's own center stage.

Perfect ! "Hate" is an emotion among the others.

I could please you and many of you by choosing the perfect japanese pot, respecting the perfect japanese rules... but, there's a but, i've done it for 15 years and know i want to please myself first.

Just a "conditioning look", i can say i'm out of that know.

I could have used your words few years ago, i'm happy to see the things differently today.

I am glad you are pleased with the outcome.  As I said the tree is wonderful but the potting arrangement is to great a force for the tree to over-come in my opinion.  It kind of reminds me of the Ballad of Breaker Maran:  

There once was a man from Australia
who painted his arse like a Dahlia
The color was fine
as to the design
but the aroma------oh what a failure.

I have always held the position that you can do bonsai any way you like, and make any statement with your designs you like, but whether or not you have succeeded in making an artistic contribution to the world of bonsai depends on the response you ultimately get from those who look at your work. You may get many from the art community who will applaud this effort, and well they should, but how many from the bonsai community will echo that accolade?

I wish I had your vision Law. This is great. I don't think I'll ever be able to create such an original image, but I'm glad that there are people like you who are able to.

L.E.N. ...

N.M.E. ? ...

Vance Wood wrote:

I have always held the position that you can do bonsai any way you like, and make any statement with your designs you like, but whether or not you have succeeded in making an artistic contribution to the world of bonsai depends on the response you ultimately get from those who look at your work.  You may get many from the art community who will applaud this effort, and well they should, but how many from the bonsai community will echo that accolade?

Not sure I like it either Vance, but Law is pretty open about not doing this 'for the bonsai community', so I guess whether we like it or not is pretty much inconsequential. The thing I like about it most is that there's another person out there trying things a bit different. Every so often one of them makes a breakthrough, May not be this time or next, but who knows when . . . . . . :-)

PS: Law, still think you need a Hello Kitty in there somewhere!  

I like the Idea Law and I kind of like the composition too although it doesn't fit traditional bonsai.
Doesn't matter it's art right?! And art is a free movement.
But what I don't like is the tree. Maybe because I look at it with a normal bonsai vision, but even if I don't, the movement of the trunk is very disturbing somehow.
And it doesn't fit any of the lines used in the whole composition (pot, table etc.) Maybe a tree with a different movement would.

But hey who cares as long as you are happy with it!  

Just going to put my two-pence worth in for what it counts;

I like what you have done here in that you have created a unique piece of art without slavingly sticking to Japanese traditions. For me - this is where I would like to see bonsai moving in the future. As for the composition though, do I like it? Hmmmmm... not really. There is something that makes me feel uneasy about a tree dangling in the air. The reason we design our trees with buttressing bases and powerful nebari is to give the tree a strong visual anchorage to the ground. This composition creates the opposite impression for me. I keep finding myself coming back and looking though, and that can't be a bad thing!

Any new photos of this tree? Still with you? Thanks, Lynn