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Post  john5555leonard on Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:27 am

hi ka pabling, great material, i like pic no. 1 < tilted over > but i dont like the lower trunk it opposes the main trunk, but whichever way you go i know its going to look good. again for me its a species i,v not seen as bonsai and i,v got lots growing around my house but not with great deadwood like yours, have you got a photo of one with finished foliage it would be interesting to see how they are refined . regards john

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Post  Ka Pabling on Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:03 am


Hi John,

In a separate thread, the title is Aroma (acacia Fornesiana) you will see the development of acacia. I am now looking for a suitable limestone where I can plant this acacia. I want the overall design to be more exotic.

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Post  Ka Pabling on Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:14 am


Good day IBC

Our bonsai group met today for a workshop. The goal was to arrive at a suitable design for the acacia,It was the consensus of the group to try something exotic and challenging. First we tried looking for an appropriate pot but we thought putting it in a pot will not be so challenging., we agreed to try mounting it in a rock. we looked around and found this large limestone rock.








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Post  Ka Pabling on Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:25 am


The problem with this rock is that its heavy, it take four able bodied man to carry it, but we thought it was the best suited for the tree.





many heads is better than one, everybody trying to suggest something Question Idea Arrow


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Post  Ka Pabling on Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:42 am

The more suggestions, the more confusion,



Jun was supposed to be here but he was out of town supervising a project



some possible options


and more options,



The guy with white tshirt trying fit the tree is Alan"the magician" Ramos ( I gave him that middle name), he is one of the best bonsai artist in this part of the globe.

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Post  cram on Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:10 pm

woar...it will be wonderfull ka pabling tongue

i would give a lot to being with you for this work
enjoy your luck to work trees like this
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Post  Ka Pabling on Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:30 pm

Thanks Cram,

The next problem is how to make this stone stand on its own. If we are going to make it stand errect,there is no problem, it will be so easy, even with its weight.,but we decided that the rock should lean almost 45 degrees!as shown in the pictures.We need some engineers to help us with this.
The next one would be the placement of the tree, normally the tree will be mounted in the upper portion of the rock, we want to make it more difficult by mounting the tree on the opposite side.
The tree will be hanging.
Wish us luck Cram!

ka pabling

Can you make a drawing Cram?

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Post  Ka Pabling on Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:11 pm


Hi Cram,
As I have explaind, what we have in mind is a leaning rock about 45 degrees the tree is clinging on the lower side. The dead wood is on top, the tip is almost of the same height of the rock. the live part cascading.
Now you have the opprtunity to contribute your share for this challenging project!
Thanks,
ka pabling

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Post  Ka Pabling on Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:55 am

Good morning IBC

Here is the first step of this acacias journey, the mounting of the stone.
, cutting of the base,


placing of dowels







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Post  Ka Pabling on Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:05 am

Due to the weight of the rock, all reinforcing bars used are 16mm








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Post  aaapostol_8368 on Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:36 am

Ka pabling,

WOW bounce bounce bounce

Good job you solve the problem how to stand a big heavy limestone in slanting position.... congratulation
Cheers

aaapostol_8368 Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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Post  cram on Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:39 am

true... Shocked ....good work!
i will make you a drawing ka pabling
but i feel like you work faster than i draw Razz

in the day...i ll send it

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Post  Ka Pabling on Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:43 am

cram wrote:true... Shocked ....good work!
i will make you a drawing ka pabling
but i feel like you work faster than i draw Razz

in the day...i ll send it

Thanks Cram, Bhoy

Now that the rock could stand with the reinforcing bars, its time to put the cement mortar,





we will have to wait one week for the curing of the cement, then we can start carving the stone for the mounting of the tree.

Best wishes
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Post  cram on Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:02 pm

here you are ...
i was looking at the positions you made with the tree on your pictures
so i wasn t sure about the positionement you want excatly
and about the exact shape of the trunk
but i try these drawings

don t pay attention to the pots...i did not think enough Embarassed
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Post  Ka Pabling on Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:29 pm


Hi Cram.

Thanks for your drawings,The first drawing is more likely to be what we will do exept the pot. For the pot, we will probably use one that looks like the one in your second drawing.

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Post  cram on Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:12 pm

i think also it is the best choice Very Happy

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Post  jolz on Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:38 pm

Oh, my, my!
I never thought of that design both of you have envisioned (Ka Pabling and Cram). That Acasia has been sitting in front of my terrace for 8 months and I never really seriously thought of any design suited to its deadwood. Now as a lesson learned.... I should have carved my name on the wood before giving a material to friends. Goodluck Ka Pabling, it now has a great future unlike when it was with me; it might stagnate for another couple years or maybe more. Glad to have joined IBC.
Regards,
Jolz

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Post  Ka Pabling on Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:45 pm

[quote="cram"]here you are ...
i was looking at the positions you made with the tree on your pictures
so i wasn t sure about the positionement you want excatly
and about the exact shape of the trunk
but i try these drawings

don t pay attention to the pots...i did not think enough Embarassed
[img][/img]



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Re: What to do with this acacia

Post  cram on Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:35 pm

wow...it s a good job Very Happy ...well done
i d like to get more people like you close to me...
who get nice trees and are ready to search for different ways
well..
except the deadwood on the left...the squecth wasn t so far tongue

no i can t wait to see how it will grow What a Face

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Post  kauaibonsai on Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:47 pm

congratulations pabling:

your design is the result of thinking waaay outside the box. wonderful !!

best wishes, sam

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Post  Ka Pabling on Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:49 pm

Thanks Cram, I will be more than glad to work more projects with you. Very Happy

Thanks Sam, your acacia planted on a limestone influenced and inspired me to do this project.

Here are some pictures of the mounting of the tree;















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Post  aaapostol_8368 on Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:49 am

wow Bagpiper Bagpiper Bagpiper great job congrats...

Cheers

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Post  totomng on Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:23 pm

hi ka pabling..
very nice composition! i love that magician so much hehe! regards to all KPSB
GODBLESS and GOODHEALTH

TOTO Very Happy

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Re: What to do with this acacia

Post  Ferdie * on Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:08 am

Ka Pabling,

Good day my Mentor, what a great creativity that you made in that tree, but i really fascinated in the manner on how you just clamp this tree in the limestone, and if this limestone would serve as the tree medium for growth considering that there are no soil visible in the said picture, kindly please educate me on the process that you have done to this tree, because i have one piece here if you still remember (Balite in the adobe rock) and im planning to transfer it to a better rock formation, though balite tree is not that so sensitive..

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Post  ponsmaldo on Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:23 am

I surprised by the final design. great job cheers

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