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Post  mano javier on Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:46 pm

Trim and
repotted my new big acacia. Any opinion on shaping it? Thanks.


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Post  BrendanR on Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:20 pm

I'd remove the 2 thick trunks that you have shortened? The remaining trunk has nice taper and you can develop the tree with only one trunk line and movement?

You have posted only 1 pic so comments are likely not fair on the tree or you...

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Post  mano javier on Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:15 am

Thanks for your opinion on my tree Brendan. I was thinking also of sawing off those two odd over sized trunks, waiting only to see new leaf growth to know if it is establishing itself because as of now it shows shock from uprooting. Mano

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Post  BrendanR on Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:40 pm

It is late spring early summer in SA, so the tree wants to grow. It will focus on leaf production, and it will use stored energy from the roots to push out new buds.

If you have repotted and trimmed it all at once then you can't really do more harm by cutting them off.

Those thick branches, if cut off, won't be taking up any of the nutrients from the roots. etter to focus the energy where you want it.

You do need to make sure it is kept out of direct sun for most of the day until it has budded and the new leaves have hardened off. Early morning and late afternoon sun, for an our or 2, will suffice.

Don't over water it, but if the roots dry out too much they will die fast. So I'd be checking it daily and making sure the water is getting right through the whole pot and then draining away.

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Post  mano javier on Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:53 am

Thanks again Brendan for your useful tips. Temperature is fluctuating here, a bit cooler today and I saw new shoots of leaves on some cut branches. I am thinking of drastically cutting most branches leaving only two at the bottom left and one at the bottom right, leaving the big trunk like a big stump, but that scares me a bit that the tree won't establish. Originally this overgrown tree had an extended big root going beyond the pavers where it was standing. It is now relying on the old side roots around it . I will definitely cut those 2 odd branches, but would you advise if I should do that planned drastic trim or wait a bit until new more leaves appear. Mano

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Post  BrendanR on Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:06 am

Post more oics from all sides, with close ups of the roots and you will get better advice?

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Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:09 pm

Soil mix ?

Typical tree shape ?

How closely cropped can you keep the leaves ?

How tall is the plant / trunk size ?
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Post  mano javier on Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:50 pm

Will take snaps of the tree around it but I doubt about the roots as it is already rooting in the pot.

As for Khaimraj, this is an african tree that grows commonly in the savannah, wild or even in urban landscapes. It is always in upright position position with an umbrella like or flat layered canopy particularly in the wild where animals like giraffe, tall deers like kudu or even elephants graze on it hence giving it that peculiar shape. It could have a slanting shape due to being knocked down by these animals and started to grow again. So that should be at least the idea of its shape as a bonsai or otherwise whatever it should look good. Take a look at the googled photo I am attaching here. As for the soil, I just use premixed bonsai soil normally bought at the nurseries but adding some sand for good drainage. The current height is less than a meter. The trunk size is 20 to 25 cm diameter at the base.


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Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:22 pm

So - 20 to 25 cm - at 1 to 6 as the trunk/height goes for grace = 120 cm to 150 cm [ height or width ]

Sand as in particles sized at 3 mm or 5 mm ?
Fine sand 1 mm or less may not help that much.

Did you read the about - Ball bearing principle - left by Ms. Cohen [ back in 2010 or so]
To enable the soil to be freely draining and be able to receive fresh 02 easily with every watering ?

Apologies for insulting your intelligence if you already knew the above.
Should be beautiful effort in time.
Thanks for showing.
Please keep the group updated.
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Post  mano javier on Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:24 am

No worries giving me professional infos, I appreciate it. Actually I used silica, the one normally used for swimming pool filter and I guess that is big enough than fine sand and I noticed the draining action after watering is fairly good. I have a bit of dilemma as I found out colonizing ants carrying white eggs are gathering around the trunk, most likely attracted to the peeling bark of acacia. I don't want to apply any chemicals due to worry that might affect the plant so I did concocted 50/50 mixture of water and white vinegar and sprayed a bit on the surface of the trunk and soil. This morning the ants were gone and the tree is sprouting actively. Will keep you guys posted of the transformation of this beauty. Thanks again.

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Post  BrendanR on Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:07 pm

Vinegar is very acidic, which may kill the tree. In that concentration you may have a problem.

When did you do this?

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Post  mano javier on Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:11 pm

Just yesterday. I sprayed lightly on the surface, thinking the acid will not penetrate the inner part of the tree, I inspected it this morning but it seems doing okay.

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Post  BrendanR on Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:02 pm

It can take a week to a month before the effects can be seen - and by then its too late.

Changes in soil ph affect trees quite dramatically. How much did you spray on (in millilitres)?

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Post  BrendanR on Fri Nov 18, 2016 5:43 pm

OK maybe not a big deal:

http://weetrees.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=15709

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Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:51 am

Brendan,

I think your wait and see down the road attitude is sensible.
So hopefully nothing will happen.
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Post  mano javier on Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:15 pm

As I have said that minimum amount on the surface was only used and it seems doing okay now. Please see 4 more pics of my brave drastic pruning. From there, you can suggest how it



would further go. In the meantime a lot of tiny shoots are sprouting around the top area of the tree.

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Post  BrendanR on Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:43 pm

OK so now do a drawing of the design you want in 3 - 5 years. That will guide you to choose the right buds and to rub off the ones that don't fit the design. Let's see your drawing - I draw it on paper then take a photo of the pic as I am a tech twit.

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Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:07 pm

Or you could shoot the front, from the front make the container's lip horizontal.
Then take good tracing paper and a 9b pencil draw the outline and then add on your branches/ branchlets
and a simple mass for the canopy.

Or print the image and draw on that.

It can look like this or b
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Post  mano javier on Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:04 am

Tried my best to illustrate how I would like it to grow as slightly slanting but upright tree where branches would reach like a flat canopy sideways.

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