old Ulmus Procera
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marcus watts
Khaimraj Seepersad
Rui Marques
moyogijohn
Tom
Billy M. Rhodes
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old Ulmus Procera
At Noelanders, did I buy an old hollow Ulmus Procera from "Kaizen".
I look a lot forward to work with the tree.
On the backside, would I like some surfaceroots.....Is it safe to make an layering ( ring the bark) just under the surface, and expect root to appear?.....the tree is ofcource healthy.
Kind regards Yvonne
I look a lot forward to work with the tree.
On the backside, would I like some surfaceroots.....Is it safe to make an layering ( ring the bark) just under the surface, and expect root to appear?.....the tree is ofcource healthy.
Kind regards Yvonne
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old Ulmus Procera
Hello Yvonne. English Elm are extremely easy to airlayer. I have layered some very large Ulmus and now is the time to do it. Complete ring of bark and at least 75mm wide.
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Re: old Ulmus Procera
Hi Billy
I did not post a photo, but will do now, I hope you like the tree.....the front of this photo, is not the front, I have now.
Hi Will
In Denmark has the trees not sprung yet, could you show a picture, or explain, when it is the best time for layering ...I was happy to read it was easy, thanks.
Kind regards Yvonne
I did not post a photo, but will do now, I hope you like the tree.....the front of this photo, is not the front, I have now.
Hi Will
In Denmark has the trees not sprung yet, could you show a picture, or explain, when it is the best time for layering ...I was happy to read it was easy, thanks.
Kind regards Yvonne
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Re: old Ulmus Procera
Given that there are already some substantive surface roots there, I wonder if it would be better to try grafting some roots in the required area rather than air layering? I'm going to try something similar on an English elm in the next year or so.
Tom- Member
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Hi Tom
You are right.....But maybe I am too much a mouse to try....I have tried a coupple of itmes to graft, without any succes..... But then again, it is on the backside, Maybe I schould pull my self together, and do a better and more serious job .
In the meantime will I produce graftingmaterial during the next summers. And hopefully be able to show you all a nice old english tree in some years.
Kind regards Yvonne
You are right.....But maybe I am too much a mouse to try....I have tried a coupple of itmes to graft, without any succes..... But then again, it is on the backside, Maybe I schould pull my self together, and do a better and more serious job .
In the meantime will I produce graftingmaterial during the next summers. And hopefully be able to show you all a nice old english tree in some years.
Kind regards Yvonne
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old ulmus procera
YVONNE ,,This is going to be a great tree!!! i sure would like to have one like that to work with..I LOVE ELMS...Good luck with this one..take care john
moyogijohn- Member
Re: old Ulmus Procera
Hi Yvonne,
I've also purchased some material from Kaizen (larix topic) Good materials!
Have you done any work with this tree?
Regards.
I've also purchased some material from Kaizen (larix topic) Good materials!
Have you done any work with this tree?
Regards.
Rui Marques- Member
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Hi Rui
I can see I have become a part of your summerupdatetour
And yes, there has been a lot of things changed on the tree....After last time did I take cuttings to prepare for grafting...but I have not used them...I have never tried this stunt, and was too chicken, I would want someone else to do a thing like that for me, the first time, while I am looking, insteadt of I ruin the tree.
In the top is a red dot, under has a bud formed during this summer...here will the top future begin...the black line next to it, show were I will cut off the old top next year. Right under is a bud that will be left to grow, to even out the top....From soil surface to red dot is 31 cm.( actully can I see I marked the red dot too high...the bud is 1cm below.)( saw it as I just went to meassure the tree)
The tube has been opened, it was hollow, and selected branches has been grown...the lowest are ofcourse the fattest,
Please enjoy the closeup of the hollow
This is from the side with a look on the backside to the right....
As I was looking for roots on the backside last year, did I find none...all roots was in the front. I ended up, under big troubbles to make a layering, on all the backside, under the fat branch...this branch was let to grow absolutely free untill 1 month ago, when I cut it back, as it was about to be too strong for the tree.....were the red line is does the branch fork, and have many buds, they will maybe become a branch, the black line is were i will cut the branch...or I just cut off all the rest of the branch, as it is not needed in the design.
Under the strong branch has many new roots appeared last summer. And during this winter will I repot the tree, and have a look at, what I have....many small roots has grown from the surface of the frontroots...what I decide to do, will have to be an update.
All for now.
Kind regards Yvonne
I can see I have become a part of your summerupdatetour
And yes, there has been a lot of things changed on the tree....After last time did I take cuttings to prepare for grafting...but I have not used them...I have never tried this stunt, and was too chicken, I would want someone else to do a thing like that for me, the first time, while I am looking, insteadt of I ruin the tree.
In the top is a red dot, under has a bud formed during this summer...here will the top future begin...the black line next to it, show were I will cut off the old top next year. Right under is a bud that will be left to grow, to even out the top....From soil surface to red dot is 31 cm.( actully can I see I marked the red dot too high...the bud is 1cm below.)( saw it as I just went to meassure the tree)
The tube has been opened, it was hollow, and selected branches has been grown...the lowest are ofcourse the fattest,
Please enjoy the closeup of the hollow
This is from the side with a look on the backside to the right....
As I was looking for roots on the backside last year, did I find none...all roots was in the front. I ended up, under big troubbles to make a layering, on all the backside, under the fat branch...this branch was let to grow absolutely free untill 1 month ago, when I cut it back, as it was about to be too strong for the tree.....were the red line is does the branch fork, and have many buds, they will maybe become a branch, the black line is were i will cut the branch...or I just cut off all the rest of the branch, as it is not needed in the design.
Under the strong branch has many new roots appeared last summer. And during this winter will I repot the tree, and have a look at, what I have....many small roots has grown from the surface of the frontroots...what I decide to do, will have to be an update.
All for now.
Kind regards Yvonne
Guest- Guest
Re: old Ulmus Procera
Hi Yvonne,
Your Ulmus seems quite similar to the one that Harry Harrington worked.
Please take a peek:
http://www.bonsai4me.com/AdvTech/ATDeciduousBonsaiDesign.html
Best regards.
Your Ulmus seems quite similar to the one that Harry Harrington worked.
Please take a peek:
http://www.bonsai4me.com/AdvTech/ATDeciduousBonsaiDesign.html
Best regards.
Rui Marques- Member
Re: old Ulmus Procera
End of second season
The tree is going to have a new top build up....Also will it be repottet for the first time before spring...I have a lovely Bryan Albright pot for the tree...just have to repot my olive first, as it still live in.
The tree has branches on the backside, just not visible on the photo.
Kind regards Yvonne
The tree is going to have a new top build up....Also will it be repottet for the first time before spring...I have a lovely Bryan Albright pot for the tree...just have to repot my olive first, as it still live in.
The tree has branches on the backside, just not visible on the photo.
Kind regards Yvonne
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Re: old Ulmus Procera
As I said before, lots of talent !!
Always a pleasure to look at.
Thank you.
Can't wait for next year.
Always a pleasure to look at.
Thank you.
Can't wait for next year.
Khaimraj Seepersad- Member
Re: old Ulmus Procera
good morning,
really nice & natural appearance to the carved wood,
is there a drain hole carved or drilled into the hollow to let water out or are you using the collected water to continue rotting the hollow all the way to the soil level ?
cheers Marcus
really nice & natural appearance to the carved wood,
is there a drain hole carved or drilled into the hollow to let water out or are you using the collected water to continue rotting the hollow all the way to the soil level ?
cheers Marcus
marcus watts- Member
Re: old Ulmus Procera
Hi Marcus
I have heavily preserved the wood with woodhardener....tried to leave the buttom free of it, but i ran dawn, and preserved the buttom too, my plan was to let it rot dawn by it self.so....
Now am I used to dry away the water with a little toiletpaper after rain....works OK, not really a problem.
When I repot the tree for the first time this winter, will I take a look of my options....should I drill, or not, from the buttom up...not possible from the inside...the tool will ruin the deadwood.
Kind regards Yvonne
I have heavily preserved the wood with woodhardener....tried to leave the buttom free of it, but i ran dawn, and preserved the buttom too, my plan was to let it rot dawn by it self.so....
Now am I used to dry away the water with a little toiletpaper after rain....works OK, not really a problem.
When I repot the tree for the first time this winter, will I take a look of my options....should I drill, or not, from the buttom up...not possible from the inside...the tool will ruin the deadwood.
Kind regards Yvonne
Guest- Guest
Re: old Ulmus Procera
Looking great! I'm so glad you didn't go the layering route as you considered in your original post. It's got a good base in my opinion and can only get better. I would kill to be able to get material like this from a nursery around here.
MikeG- Member
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last post was from 4th of april...this is from today...not a very long time has gone....
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I know there is a english " leaf out", wonder if there also is a " Crown out"
Kind regards Yvonne
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I know there is a english " leaf out", wonder if there also is a " Crown out"
Kind regards Yvonne
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only 5 days later
The Crown had become completely wild...I just defoliated the tree, and pruned back to shape.
Now am I waiting for second flush...It will be a nice day, when the pads finaly grow together and become on crown ...also do I want the apex to grow in the direction of the first branch...look forward to the job.
Kind regards Yvonne
The Crown had become completely wild...I just defoliated the tree, and pruned back to shape.
Now am I waiting for second flush...It will be a nice day, when the pads finaly grow together and become on crown ...also do I want the apex to grow in the direction of the first branch...look forward to the job.
Kind regards Yvonne
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Its looking good, How tall is it? It looks ShoHin sized.....
I have an English Elm stump im developing into a ShoHin sumo style, Its a little brute
I have an English Elm stump im developing into a ShoHin sumo style, Its a little brute
BobbyLane- Member
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Hi Bobbylane
To the current highest tip, is the tree standing 39 cm tall...it could but cut back, and held in a Kifu-sice, but I want the crown nice and big, so it will with time end up as "big bonsai".
The procera is not really easy to turn into bonsai, the leaves is constant growing big and then turn ugly ( at least in my garden)...
I have 3 ulmus minor, they are compared to this tree, small angels to work with, the leaves turn really small very fast, and they are perfect for shohin....when this is said, would I ofcourse go for a sumo-shohin like you did, if i found a procera useful for this...look forward to see yours
Kind regards Yvonne
To the current highest tip, is the tree standing 39 cm tall...it could but cut back, and held in a Kifu-sice, but I want the crown nice and big, so it will with time end up as "big bonsai".
The procera is not really easy to turn into bonsai, the leaves is constant growing big and then turn ugly ( at least in my garden)...
I have 3 ulmus minor, they are compared to this tree, small angels to work with, the leaves turn really small very fast, and they are perfect for shohin....when this is said, would I ofcourse go for a sumo-shohin like you did, if i found a procera useful for this...look forward to see yours
Kind regards Yvonne
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Wow, it really doesnt look that big. its gonna be a beast by the sounds of it! Ill try an upload a pic of mine later, I only got it about three weeks ago and pruned off some ugly bits. three weeks ago it had no leaves just lots of buds on a few branches, not many branches either, but they are in good positions like a half moon, came from a pot in a field.. now its going crazy
BobbyLane- Member
Re: old Ulmus Procera
Look forward to see your tree, it sound like a nice bit you have found .
Do it on a tread of its own, this will make it possible for us all to follow the tree in the future.
Kind regards Yvonne
Do it on a tread of its own, this will make it possible for us all to follow the tree in the future.
Kind regards Yvonne
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