What happened to that Hawthorn from Joy of Bonsai
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Lee Kennedy
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Rob Kempinski
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Ivo Saporiti
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What happened to that Hawthorn from Joy of Bonsai
Remember this tree?
It was shown at the Joy of Bonsai a few years back, but I was never really happy with the postion of the tree in the pot.... plus the base of the tres began to rot so badly that the inverse taper meant that a rethink was needed.
Here is the tree when first collected in 2001, it was a twin trunk, the small trunk was sent bear rooted to Jack Douthitt.
I had the pleasure of hosting a Study Group from Scotland on Saturday in my Garden. Fiona, Peter, Peter and Martin spend the day discussing the merits and problems with Hawthorns... at the end of the day I repotted the tree in a rather unusual pot. Fiona took some photos... post them please Fiona.
It was shown at the Joy of Bonsai a few years back, but I was never really happy with the postion of the tree in the pot.... plus the base of the tres began to rot so badly that the inverse taper meant that a rethink was needed.
Here is the tree when first collected in 2001, it was a twin trunk, the small trunk was sent bear rooted to Jack Douthitt.
I had the pleasure of hosting a Study Group from Scotland on Saturday in my Garden. Fiona, Peter, Peter and Martin spend the day discussing the merits and problems with Hawthorns... at the end of the day I repotted the tree in a rather unusual pot. Fiona took some photos... post them please Fiona.
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Re: What happened to that Hawthorn from Joy of Bonsai
very nice solution tony! ..i think you made a good increase of artistic value.
Only a thing: the work on dead wood near the node, best if made before the repotting.
In this case, you must wait almost 1 year, else you can have some problem whit the roots growing
Only a thing: the work on dead wood near the node, best if made before the repotting.
In this case, you must wait almost 1 year, else you can have some problem whit the roots growing
Ivo Saporiti- Member
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Ivo Saporiti wrote:very nice solution tony! ..i think you made a good increase of artistic value.
Only a thing: the work on dead wood near the node, best if made before the repotting.
In this case, you must wait almost 1 year, else you can have some problem whit the roots growing
Hi Ivo... I did the work on the rotten wood two years ago...it is now hard...Thanks for your well meaning advise and kind words
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Ivo Saporiti wrote:very nice solution tony! ..i think you made a good increase of artistic value.
Only a thing: the work on dead wood near the node, best if made before the repotting.
In this case, you must wait almost 1 year, else you can have some problem whit the roots growing
Ivo.. here are a few details, photos made during the new potting. Note the inverse taper.
Peter with the tree just after removing from the old pot
here is the New pot with the old in the background
and this is how well the tree fits into its new pot. Note: The tree is very stable
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Nice job Tony. Having fun it looks like. I'm surprised at the paucity of roots after all these years. Is that the norm for Hawthorn?
Rob Kempinski- Member
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i'm talking about this zone, not tachi-agari
I think may be an important interesting zone
I think may be an important interesting zone
Ivo Saporiti- Member
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Rob Kempinski wrote:Nice job Tony. Having fun it looks like. I'm surprised at the paucity of roots after all these years. Is that the norm for Hawthorn?
Hi Rob, its kinda the norm here in the damp cold North of the UK... although I have others that have far more vigor when making roots...this is a really slow growing tree... there is enough root to support the foliage mass...
Ivo... ah.. now I understand... you have an Eagles Eye. Yes this needs work... but I can wait a year whilst the tree establishes... however the tree is VERY firm in the pot, and I could 'strap' the trunk to a strong support and do the work on the small 'stump'...
Last edited by Tony on Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:19 am; edited 1 time in total
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Tony wrote:
Ivo... ah.. now I understand... you have an Eagles Eye. Yes this needs work... but I can wait a year whilst the tree establishes... however the tree is VERY firm in the pot, and I could 'strap' the trunk to a strong support and do the work on the small 'stump'...
thanks Tony, but may be the case that my english is not so good
Ivo Saporiti- Member
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bonsai monkey wrote:I was a bit worried about that photo as well Tony
Simon, you are more than anyone aware of Fiona's perverse sense of humour, the good catholic boy that I am sees nothing untoward with the photo...
Rob... you should know better with your handicap
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Tony wrote: Simon, you are more than anyone aware of Fiona's perverse sense of humour
I don't know what you mean Tony
bonsai monkey- Member
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bonsai monkey wrote:Tony wrote: Simon, you are more than anyone aware of Fiona's perverse sense of humour
I don't know what you mean Tony
Guys! Are you even suggesting this was a deliberate shot? An' there's me a good catholic girl, Tony - easily shocked by smut, innuendo, and lime green mankinis! At least you weren't wearing those shoes at the time!
Anyone know how to extract tongues from cheeks?
fiona- Member
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Who made the pot Tony? it looks fantastic,wabi sabi!
Lee Kennedy- Member
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Lee Kennedy wrote:Who made the pot Tony? it looks fantastic,wabi sabi!
Hi Lee, the pot is by William Vlaanderen from Holland, this is one of his 'moon' pots. Was NOT a cheap pot because they are fired to a very high temperature and William does a lot of work during the firing to bring out the texture on the pot... worth every Euro
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Joking and smut apart Tony, this is a wonderful tree and pot combo. It just proves to me how far I need to progress in this hobby for my trees to even reach the standard of your pot!!!
Please carry on sharing your projects with us as it does inspire us mere mortals.
Please carry on sharing your projects with us as it does inspire us mere mortals.
bonsai monkey- Member
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Hi Tony did this hawthorn come from John Hanby Brian
Bear- Member
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Bear wrote:Hi Tony did this hawthorn come from John Hanby Brian
BRIAN!!!! You really know how to wind someone up don't you... a typo in Bonsai Focus and this gets presented to me on 'tinternet. My Tree, I collected it, I styled it... MY TREE
Naughty Brian, go and say four Our Fathers, Three Hail Mary's and give up the demon drink for Lent
I am considering your place at Burrs... maybe offer it to a Spaniard... Maximus Maximus Maxumus.
I need to lie down in a dark place for a while
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Hi Tony sorry i honestly didnt know it was a typo (toungue in cheek ) i did not realise you where so sensitive amigo Brian ps its an art
Bear- Member
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hi tony,
i,m not sure i like these pots per say but it suits the tree really well!
how is the rotting of the base now?
what preperation did you use to halt it and prevent further decay?
richT
i,m not sure i like these pots per say but it suits the tree really well!
how is the rotting of the base now?
what preperation did you use to halt it and prevent further decay?
richT
matsu- Member
Re: What happened to that Hawthorn from Joy of Bonsai
matsu wrote:hi tony,
i,m not sure i like these pots per say but it suits the tree really well!
how is the rotting of the base now?
what preperation did you use to halt it and prevent further decay?
richT
Hi Rich, I use Kaizen Bonsai wood hardener (not sure if its still available)... and have found it quite effective, although if the deadwood is below soil it will eventually rot and perish, hawthorn is soft wood
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Tony it is an incredible tree with essence, and the pot is perfect
Regards...
Regards...
Salva- Member
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