W+W+ Juniper

will baddeley wrote:The only before photo is this one. The Juniper is on the far left.sorry again.

will baddeley wrote:Helo Boon. Thanks for your input but I don't agree. It's also about the picture your painting. Both trees(your Cali as well) both move up from the pot to the left. They have both put up a struggle with the forces of nature and nature has won. The forces have come from right to left and left their scars on the left hand side, with your dramatic deadwood and my jinned branches and live vein turning to the inside. For the foliage to then grow stronger on the left side would in my opinion, give the wrong impression.

will baddeley wrote:Hello Boon.Don't these 2 pics emphasize my point. The first,rises from.the pot to the right, turns left and then sweeps to the right. The majority of the deadwood is on the left, giving the feeling that this is the direction of the weather. The foliage is therefore close in on the left and abundant on the right. The seconds deadwood being on the right and the greater foliage on the left.

AlainK wrote:I apologise in advance for being so straightforward, but anyway, my reputation is made, so :

Boon, I think it is not relevant to post trees that have naturally such a movement right from the start of the trunk to argue about the "canopy" of the tree. It's just as if you focused on the shoe size of a marathon runner to try and explain why this one runs faster than that one : it is simply irrelevant.

[color=blue]it is about the relationship of the trunk and the flow of the tree. Naturally the flow of the curve of the trunk, location of key branch and location of the apex, play the key role on how the tree is styled.
i am not here for the contest. i posted those picture to show the curve and flow of the tree. if you see the different or not, it is fine either way.
shoe size is not relevant in this case. i just do not understand the relationship between the shoe size and how fast the runner can run.


Will's tree and the trees you're showing have such different movements that any comment upon the foliage is totally vain. One must consider a tree as a whole, not try to "patch" different parts from different designs/styles/trees that impressed you on what a poor Will Baddedley is trying to achieve.

i am just express an option here. It is a different way to paint(if i may compare it to painting)

Don't you think he hasn't enough miseries in seeing his avatar, this ridiculous rendition of his self each time he connects to a thread he took part in?...

(What?... He's British and he has a mean sense of humour?.. Oh, he has -Has he not?... )

will baddeley wrote:Hello Alain. Less of the "poor Will Baddedley", if you don't mind. Are you originally from the Wirral, as they seem to have this problem with my surname.
I have no problem with critisism, just as long as it's me doing it. No seriously, I think Boon has a valid point as do I. Whether working on less expensive nursery stock or yamadori, the goals are the same. The tree should tell a story.

Rob Kempinski wrote:I like the design as it nicely frames the negative space.

Don't like the weeds in the pot though

will baddeley wrote:

Rob Kempinski wrote:I like the design as it nicely frames the negative space.

Don't like the weeds in the pot though

I've actually started cultivating weeds because I know how much it gets to you. Thanks Rob.