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Post  Pavel Slovák Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:52 pm

Hi all friends.

The pine was first planted in a container in 1974 (seedling 5 years old).I have received it in spring 2006.
pic. 1 spring 2006
Pinus mugo 2006 Ib_111
first styling - autum 2006
Pinus mugo 2006 Ib_211
after first styling - autum 2006
Pinus mugo 2006 Ib_311
virtual 2006
Pinus mugo 2006 Ib_411
autum 2007
Pinus mugo 2006 Ib_511
summer 2009etai
Pinus mugo 2006 Ib_611
February 2010 - before restyling
Pinus mugo 2006 Ib_711
detail back-side
Pinus mugo 2006 Ib_810
Pinus mugo 2006 Ib_910
Mugo after restyling 2010
Pinus mugo 2006 Ib_1010

Pavel

more pict.: http://www.bonsaivigi.cz/fotoalbum/tvarovani-a-vyvoj---styling-and-development/pinus-mugo-__gnom__-2006
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Post  Smithy Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:14 pm

Great work. I first thought you planted some seedlings in with it. Very innovative. Keep them coming cheers
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Post  Velodog2 Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:15 pm

In my opinion your use of the back branch is clever and believable. I'm not too sure about the ten-jin however. Seems incongruous a little from the pics, as there doesn't seem to be any other significant jin or shari on the tree. Perhaps it is also working against the downward motion of what is essentially a cascading branch, pulling in different directions. The image looks better to me if I cover up the jin.

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Post  AlainK Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:40 pm

Smithy wrote:Great work. I first thought you planted some seedlings in with it. Very innovative. Keep them coming cheers

The same ! I also thought you had planted seedlings, or made a graft. Beautiful result.

I also think that the jin may not be necessary, it distracts from the overall design, especially the "multi-trunk" feel...
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Post  andy mcconnell Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:48 pm

that pot is very nice!!...matches well with the tree
great work on the tree
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Post  bobby little Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:01 pm

how do people learn to do this? Shocked
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Post  alex e Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:42 am

bobby little wrote:how do people learn to do this? Shocked
Hi Bobby, the answer is you cant!
like all great Artists/Artisans,musicians, sculptors etc etc you are born with the gift, admittedly! basics can
be taught & learned but the bottom line is you either got it or you aint, I know people in my trade that have
been practicing for 35years and still no further on lol!, at the same time this should not stop or discourage anyone from enjoying or being part of it ThumbsUp

Again really nice work Pavel ThumbsUp

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Post  Pavel Slovák Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:27 pm

Hi all.
Thank you very much for nice replies. Very Happy

Today I removed the jin. I think the composition is better. Wink

Pavel

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Post  Roger Snipes Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:38 pm

Hi Pavel, nice work. I think it looks better without the jin.

The back branch that you bent down; did you (or will you) approach graft it to the base of the trunk?

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Post  Mario Stefano Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:48 am

Pavel Slovák wrote:Hi all.
... I think the composition is better. Wink

Much better without jin! Excellent idea with the lowered first branch.
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Post  sitarbonsai Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:33 pm

wow, I really like this composition
great work

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Post  Guest Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:12 pm

Again Pavel, great work, sensitive and well executed... and... its small!

bobby little wrote:how do people learn to do this? Shocked

Alex is... in principal correct 'the bottom line is you either got it or you ain't' but there is no substitute for practice, practice, practice, going to a good teacher, meeting with like minded and radical thinkers. How else will you discover whether 'you either got it or you ain't'

I could be an amazing piano player but I have never actually sat down and attempted to play.

Again Alex is spot on "I know people in my trade that have been practicing for 35years and still no further on" I too know the very same folk, its not that the simply cannot do it, its usually because they are in their comfort zone and that is fine for them.

If you reach contentment you have ceased learning.

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Post  Luis Fontanills Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:04 pm

Pavel,
First, let me congratulate you on an exceptional job; the balance and composition is first rate. The trick with the first back branch is ingenious, but the illusion is lost when viewing the tree in the round. Can this branch be lowered further, and buried (with appropriate techniques to root), and when rooted eliminate it from the mother tree? This is after all the illusion you have created from the front.

In the long run, the back branch lowering technique will keep it from being all it can be.
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Post  Velodog2 Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:00 pm

Luis Fontanills wrote:Pavel,
First, let me congratulate you on an exceptional job; the balance and composition is first rate. The trick with the first back branch is ingenious, but the illusion is lost when viewing the tree in the round. Can this branch be lowered further, and buried (with appropriate techniques to root), and when rooted eliminate it from the mother tree? This is after all the illusion you have created from the front.

In the long run, the back branch lowering technique will keep it from being all it can be.

I disagree. You are assuming that the purpose is to fool the viewer into believing there are multiple trunks, and it does somewhat appear that way, although as you point out the illusion is not perfect. However to someone who has lived where there is heavy snow, the idea that a lower branch could be pulled down in this way is completely believable and that it is completely sufficient for it not to look like a true multiple trunked tree, but simply what it is.

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Post  Pavel Slovák Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:49 pm

Hi all friends.

Thank you for your positive response and comments.
re: Roger and Luis - thanks for the reminder. But it's the way he wrote Velodog. I do not want to graft a branch or to form roots.Composition is a fallen, broken lower branch. I need to improve the branch of the strain to come down. Then the composition should be improved. Wink

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Post  amazonida Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:11 pm

If you reach contentment you have ceased learning.
i like it! in bonsai we have to have commitment... you must think every day to improve the art. live with the nature to realize that you made part of it...know how each specie lives in a pot, care about... too much phylosofi, sorry! Very Happy

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Post  Jaco Kriek Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:00 am

Pavel
I really enjoy all the trees you post, and you really have (it seems) lots of trees. How many trees do you have? Can you post a picture of where/how you keep them all?
Jaco
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Post  Pavel Slovák Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:55 pm

Jaco Kriek wrote:Pavel
I really enjoy all the trees you post, and you really have (it seems) lots of trees. How many trees do you have? Can you post a picture of where/how you keep them all?
Jaco

Hi Jaco.
Thank you very much for pozitiv replies.

Trees do not accurately counted. Embarassed Some trees here on the forum are a friend.Just working on them. (It is stated in the post) Smile
The sample some photos of trees in my house (Autum 2009).
Pinus mugo 2006 Aajen_10
Pinus mugo 2006 Aajen_11
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Pinus mugo 2006 Aajen_13

Pavel

more pict.: http://www.bonsaivigi.cz/fotoalbum/nezarazene/podzim-2009
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Post  Pavel Slovák Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:36 pm

Hi all.

Today I removed all the wires.

Before (with wires)
Pinus mugo 2006 Muf_210
Pinus mugo 2006 Muf_410
after (without wires)
Pinus mugo 2006 Muf_510
Pinus mugo 2006 Muf_610
Pinus mugo 2006 Muf_710
Pinus mugo 2006 Muf_810

Pavel
more pict.: http://www.bonsaivigi.cz/fotoalbum/tvarovani-a-vyvoj---styling-and-development/pinus-mugo-__gnom__-2006
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Post  Jesse Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:51 pm

I absolutely loved reading and studying the pics in this progression series. I feel like a learned a lot. Thanks for posting it.
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Post  Pavel Slovák Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:27 pm

Hi all bonsai friends

Today I worked on Pine. I'm pulling needles and tree re-styling.
I think I'm one step further with this Pine. Very Happy

today before work
Pinus mugo 2006 Mno_210
after pulling needles
Pinus mugo 2006 Mno_310
work
Pinus mugo 2006 Mno_410
back side
Pinus mugo 2006 Mno_1010
Pinus mugo 2006 Mno_910
today after restyling
Pinus mugo 2006 Mno_1510

Gretings Pavel
more pict.: http://www.bonsaivigi.cz/fotoalbum/tvarovani-a-vyvoj---styling-and-development/pinus-mugo-__gnom__-2006/
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Post  Lee Brindley Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:52 pm

Hi Pavel.
Nice work once again. Much better without the jinned apex in my opinion. Very Happy
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Post  Loke Emil Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:56 pm

Hi Pavel

...ENVY, ENVY and then some inspiration and hope for amateurs like me - given the 2006 material; Something similar can be found in nurseries, even in the danish 'wild' forrests...But the way you control the tree from raw starter-material is awesome cheers

best regards
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Post  Guest Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:21 pm

Hi Pavel

Lovely tree.

Kind regards Yvonne

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Post  F. Waheedy Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:28 pm

Beautiful tree, Pavel. I always love your work.

Hope you're well.

Regards.

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