Left for Nigel, concrete pots --------- how to.
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Re: Left for Nigel, concrete pots --------- how to.
Khaimraj,
Many Thanks. I will check it out and let you know how I get on.
Regards,
Nigel
Many Thanks. I will check it out and let you know how I get on.
Regards,
Nigel
Nigel Parke- Member
Re: Left for Nigel, concrete pots --------- how to.
and there is this too, posted on the AAC blog by our man Brian Soldano (R2B2)
http://arborartscollective.blogspot.com/2017/05/concrete-pot-project-from-winter-2016.html
http://arborartscollective.blogspot.com/2017/05/concrete-pot-project-from-winter-2016.html
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
Re: Left for Nigel, concrete pots --------- how to.
a reminder to all:
LEACH THESE POTS BEFORE USING !!!
LEACH THESE POTS BEFORE USING !!!
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
Re: Left for Nigel, concrete pots --------- how to.
Good point Kevin,
normally leave them in a tub soaking for 6 weeks.
Also supposed to take 6 weeks for full concrete mix strength,
Have one pot in concrete in full use since 1993 or so.
Was a gift from a friend.
He used the technique shown on your site.
Laters.
Khaimraj
normally leave them in a tub soaking for 6 weeks.
Also supposed to take 6 weeks for full concrete mix strength,
Have one pot in concrete in full use since 1993 or so.
Was a gift from a friend.
He used the technique shown on your site.
Laters.
Khaimraj
Khaimraj Seepersad- Member
Re: Left for Nigel, concrete pots --------- how to.
The six weeks for curing (really it's 28 days for most mixes) can also be spent underwater leaching.
In other words, it need not be 6+6.
In fact, water curing actually increases the hardness and cure rate dramatically.
By City inspection standards, concrete which has been water cured for 28 days should test out at 97% of required strength but seldom would fail absent other contributing factors.
In other words, it need not be 6+6.
In fact, water curing actually increases the hardness and cure rate dramatically.
By City inspection standards, concrete which has been water cured for 28 days should test out at 97% of required strength but seldom would fail absent other contributing factors.
bilbo- Member
Re: Left for Nigel, concrete pots --------- how to.
good advice mr. baggins !
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
Re: Left for Nigel, concrete pots --------- how to.
Kevin, Khaimraj, Bilbo,
Thanks for the additional info.
@Stoneage Can you describe/show your process? I'm especially interested in how you make the moulds for the pots with curves. What materials did you use?
Thanks in advance,
Nigel
Thanks for the additional info.
@Stoneage Can you describe/show your process? I'm especially interested in how you make the moulds for the pots with curves. What materials did you use?
Thanks in advance,
Nigel
Nigel Parke- Member
Re: Left for Nigel, concrete pots --------- how to.
hi nigel
i use just sand ..put fine little wet sand on a board ...like a table
and form it or put it in a tray and turn it upsidedown on the table
there is your mould...cover it with cement and form it..
i use a curved metal piece as forming tool..some vietnamese guys
on youtube do it much better than me...so the princip is that you do
the pot upsidedown feets up....
i use just sand ..put fine little wet sand on a board ...like a table
and form it or put it in a tray and turn it upsidedown on the table
there is your mould...cover it with cement and form it..
i use a curved metal piece as forming tool..some vietnamese guys
on youtube do it much better than me...so the princip is that you do
the pot upsidedown feets up....
stoneage- Member
Re: Left for Nigel, concrete pots --------- how to.
the "stoneage" method !
simple ways are best !
simple ways are best !
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
Re: Left for Nigel, concrete pots --------- how to.
If I may offer a couple suggestions...
It looks to me like your mix is a little dry.
I know you want it slightly dry so it will not run down your mold, but I'd try a bit more water if possible.
This may reduce the patching necessary to fill gaps.
In this usage, those gaps will never fill in completely and may retain water in hidden pockets.
You may not have a problem with that in tropical climates but if this happens where temperatures go below freezing, the pot may crack from the expansion of the water in the hidden pockets.
Then, after you reach the stopping point of your final picture:
1. use a spray bottle to lightly mist the surface to keep it wet
2. use your tool to resurface the concrete
3. As you resurface the concrete, giggle the tool ever so slightly
4. repeat other sections as necessary
With practice, you may find you'll get a smoother outer surface on finished result.
It looks to me like your mix is a little dry.
I know you want it slightly dry so it will not run down your mold, but I'd try a bit more water if possible.
This may reduce the patching necessary to fill gaps.
In this usage, those gaps will never fill in completely and may retain water in hidden pockets.
You may not have a problem with that in tropical climates but if this happens where temperatures go below freezing, the pot may crack from the expansion of the water in the hidden pockets.
Then, after you reach the stopping point of your final picture:
1. use a spray bottle to lightly mist the surface to keep it wet
2. use your tool to resurface the concrete
3. As you resurface the concrete, giggle the tool ever so slightly
4. repeat other sections as necessary
With practice, you may find you'll get a smoother outer surface on finished result.
Last edited by bilbo on Fri May 26, 2017 8:30 pm; edited 1 time in total
bilbo- Member
Re: Left for Nigel, concrete pots --------- how to.
Stoneage & Bilbo,
Thank you for the finer details.
@Stoneage Is your mix just sand and cement? Or have you added anything else?
I'm definitely going to try this. It looks like a fun project regardless of the outcome.
Thank you for the finer details.
@Stoneage Is your mix just sand and cement? Or have you added anything else?
I'm definitely going to try this. It looks like a fun project regardless of the outcome.
Nigel Parke- Member
Re: Left for Nigel, concrete pots --------- how to.
just normal sand and cement..for ready mix - fine cement if you want to color it i use oxid pigment coulor
ex iron oxid- black, red oxid..... the oxid powder is mixed in dry cement 5 %
ex iron oxid- black, red oxid..... the oxid powder is mixed in dry cement 5 %
stoneage- Member
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