European wild pear_The Grandma
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AlainK
Khaimraj Seepersad
MichaelS
Herbert A
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai
Precarious
JimLewis
Vlad
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European wild pear_The Grandma
I have collected this pear in 2011 in Central Bohemia. Due to the fact that I have managed to take with me only a very limited number of fine roots I have placed the tree into a purpose built small greenhouse. In the first weeks the plant has been misted a number of times per day and a lamp with blue spectrum has been used to promote the growth of the roots. The growth in the first two/three years was quite limited. 2014 was quite good. Repotted in autumn 2014 - no pruning of the roots though. This year again, no new growth. It seems that this old lady doesn't like to be touched under her skirt. On the other side, I can see a good growth of new roots so I am waiting eagerly for next growing season.
Autumn 2010
Winter look 2015. Height 55 cm.
Many flaws but an eye knocking bark/age/character to balance. What do you think?
If interested please see my blog for more details: http://doriyama.blogspot.cz/
Autumn 2010
Winter look 2015. Height 55 cm.
Many flaws but an eye knocking bark/age/character to balance. What do you think?
If interested please see my blog for more details: http://doriyama.blogspot.cz/
Last edited by Vlad on Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:37 am; edited 1 time in total
Vlad- Member
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VERY interesting tree. I love pears as bonsai, but I don't read blogs, so I hope you can continue to update it here from time to time. Thanks for posting.
JimLewis- Member
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Very nice tree. I like the bark very much. It is hard to tell for sure from this angle, but does the branch on the right have a trifurcation that would be in danger of creating a bulge?
Precarious- Member
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Vlad wrote:It seems that this old lady doesn't like to be touched under her skirt.
show me one that does like it and i'll show you a... oh... never mind.
that is one dynamite and dynamic tree !!!
i truly hope she ends up thriving for you in time...
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
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@ Jim Thank you. I will surely place updates with appropriate comments on the IBC.
@ David Good shooting. There were four branches in fact - see the small stump just in the middle. I would be quite quick to fix it with most of my other trees. With this one it is different. I will take time to see the new growth first.
@ Kevin Thank you for inspiration. I will name one of my next yamadori The Dynamix
@ David Good shooting. There were four branches in fact - see the small stump just in the middle. I would be quite quick to fix it with most of my other trees. With this one it is different. I will take time to see the new growth first.
@ Kevin Thank you for inspiration. I will name one of my next yamadori The Dynamix
Vlad- Member
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Hi Vlad,
what a nice old Lady :-).
Wild pears dont like to work on her roots if they are not strong. After working on roots they have a poor growth for one, sometimes two years.
Be carefull with this nice wunderful tree.
Thanks for showing.
Herbert
what a nice old Lady :-).
Wild pears dont like to work on her roots if they are not strong. After working on roots they have a poor growth for one, sometimes two years.
Be carefull with this nice wunderful tree.
Thanks for showing.
Herbert
Herbert A- Member
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Vlad wrote:@ Kevin Thank you for inspiration. I will name one of my next yamadori The Dynamix
or if she doesnt mind you playing with her roots, she could me a DYNAMINX
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
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Hi Vlad. This is excellent material with fantastic potential. My only concern is the two directions the tree is headed in. Just my opinion of course, but i believe this problem should be resolved in the near future (next couple of years) If left as is, you may find that it will become more and more visually distracting. Either the left or the right movements would be equaly good.
It's very hot today and I don't have much to do so I played around with designs.
Right
Or left. I prefer this but the smaller trunk will have to be brought in closer to the main trunk or removed I think.
It's very hot today and I don't have much to do so I played around with designs.
Right
Or left. I prefer this but the smaller trunk will have to be brought in closer to the main trunk or removed I think.
MichaelS- Member
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if this is open for opinions, i agree with michael... except i prefer the first orientation (right) as it seems more "solid"...
the left option, (as presented) looks "tippy" or as if it is falling over (which of course would be easily remedied by a potting angle change)
the left option, (as presented) looks "tippy" or as if it is falling over (which of course would be easily remedied by a potting angle change)
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
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I like it enough to hope that it survives.
Really like that bark.
Please keep showing Vlad.
Laters.
Khaimraj
Really like that bark.
Please keep showing Vlad.
Laters.
Khaimraj
Khaimraj Seepersad- Member
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It is quite obvious this tree is well above my level - too much respect for it. If I live in Japan I would find a bonsai master whose trees are close to my soul and let him to style it. Then ideally the tree will get into a place where it can be viewed by general public. As this is not the case I would need to find some other solutions.
Thank you all very much for your +comments, advice and styling suggestions.
Mike I do appretiate your effort to make two possible designs for me. I hope there will be more hot days in the future to help me with this tree. I understand your point regarding the small tree. The direction and the shape of its trunk is not good and I need to decide how to style it pretty soon. For some emotional reasons I plan to keep it. For the main tree - basic care to regain the top health is the No1 priority for me.
Thank you all very much for your +comments, advice and styling suggestions.
Mike I do appretiate your effort to make two possible designs for me. I hope there will be more hot days in the future to help me with this tree. I understand your point regarding the small tree. The direction and the shape of its trunk is not good and I need to decide how to style it pretty soon. For some emotional reasons I plan to keep it. For the main tree - basic care to regain the top health is the No1 priority for me.
Vlad- Member
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Vlad wrote:It is quite obvious this tree is well above my level - too much respect for it. If I live in Japan I would find a bonsai master whose trees are close to my soul and let him to style it. Then ideally the tree will get into a place where it can be viewed by general public. As this is not the case I would need to find some other solutions.
NO tree should be above anyone's level if he or she isn't in a hellfire hurry to DO SOMETHING. If nothing else, just work on the roots for this one for the next few years while you study and assess the top. There are any number of competent bonsaiests in Europe, surely you can get one (or several) of them to take a look. Visit one of the shows and bring the tree with you. People will flock to make suggestions. Just don't take any but the best.
Last edited by JimLewis on Sun Dec 20, 2015 4:22 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : fix one of my many typos these days)
JimLewis- Member
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A very promissing tree Vlad.
The bark of wild pear is beautiful. We all long for the flowers on such trees, but when potted it can take a loooong time.
I would personally try to avoid big scars and "jins" and "uro" or other tricks on such a natural-looking tree.
Alain
The bark of wild pear is beautiful. We all long for the flowers on such trees, but when potted it can take a loooong time.
I would personally try to avoid big scars and "jins" and "uro" or other tricks on such a natural-looking tree.
Alain
AlainK- Member
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Alain - any idea why the common pears take long time to produce flowers in a pot?
Vlad- Member
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I really have no idea.
In nature, I think they have to be at least 10 years old to flower, after reaching a certain height. Maybe pruning them slows the process, even if cultivated species have to be pruned to flower at their best. Hard to tell...
In nature, I think they have to be at least 10 years old to flower, after reaching a certain height. Maybe pruning them slows the process, even if cultivated species have to be pruned to flower at their best. Hard to tell...
AlainK- Member
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My little pear has NEVER flowered and I've had it for Many, Many years. Its parent trees on my Tallahassee farm bloomed profusely every year.
JimLewis- Member
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Beautiful colours indeed.
And once again, the bark texture is outstanding.
Some use fertilizers in autumn for fruit trees, at or after leaf fall, with a low proportion of Nitrogen (N), a high proportion of of Phosphate (P, for the resistance of the tree), and an even higher proportion of Potash (P, to boost flowering). For instance NPK 3-6-9, or even 0-14-26.
And once again, the bark texture is outstanding.
Some use fertilizers in autumn for fruit trees, at or after leaf fall, with a low proportion of Nitrogen (N), a high proportion of of Phosphate (P, for the resistance of the tree), and an even higher proportion of Potash (P, to boost flowering). For instance NPK 3-6-9, or even 0-14-26.
AlainK- Member
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My pears have never ever produce a single bloom. Every single year I am full of hope but no luck so far. Never mind It will come one day...
Thank you for your hint, Alain. I guess that most of the fruiting trees produce flower buds ( or better to say the buds start to differentiate ) in the mid of summer. In my region = July. If that is true then I think that late Autumn or spring fertilisation with high P and K will help. Last year I have used for this pear PK 50-18. Zerro effect. I do remember what Jim Lewis wrote about his pear...
As you said earlier. It is about fert, pruning, cultivation. And about the tree.
Thank you for your hint, Alain. I guess that most of the fruiting trees produce flower buds ( or better to say the buds start to differentiate ) in the mid of summer. In my region = July. If that is true then I think that late Autumn or spring fertilisation with high P and K will help. Last year I have used for this pear PK 50-18. Zerro effect. I do remember what Jim Lewis wrote about his pear...
As you said earlier. It is about fert, pruning, cultivation. And about the tree.
Vlad- Member
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thanks for bringing this one back up...
really great tree...
really great tree...
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
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jungle Jas wrote:look after it Vlad.
This is THE single most important task for me.
Vlad- Member
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