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Post  brian soldano Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:16 pm

Found this guys today at the home depot for $20. Not sure I've ever seen one with a trunk like this at a garden center so obviously I had to snag it up. The flowers were just starting to wilt so I chopped it down from 7 feet and now time to wait. I repotted it as well only find out the roots must have been done last year. They are all close to the base and very fine and dense. Not much for nebari but I hope that will change in the next couple years as it grows in this pot and get some branch development. Any input or advice is more than welcome thanks

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Post  brian soldano Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:00 pm

500 views and nothing but here is an update anyways, i had to prune this thing a lot to keep the shoots under control. not sure what is going to stay and what is going to go, so next year i will just pinch and prune back and see what the tree tells me it wants to do... any suggestions are more than welcome

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Post  LanceMac10 Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:53 pm

Cool. I have yet to work with forsythia, as they are around me in abundance. I'll let mothernature take care of 'em!!

Do love their yellows in spring, though. They came in really late this year, lousy spring around here as I'm sure you are well aware.

Good luck!!! Cool
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Post  Thomas Urban Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:20 pm

Nice deal for something at Home Depot Smile

I would let it grow unchecked for a couple of years, lots of feeding, water and sun. Once you have many branches to choose from, hack it back hard, and wire it perhaps late summer. Don't worry about ramification but more about the first initial shape. Since it'll be healthy maybe it can go into a suitable pot that spring. So 2 years from now you'll have something wired and ready for a new pot in the spring. It'll look awesome right after you'll re-pot it too.

If it were mine, I would hack that straight section on the top and try to use the two bottom sub trunks/ branches to start something new.

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Post  Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:27 pm

... and if i'm not mistaken, the branches tend to become hollow over time and difficult to wire...
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Post  gman Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:04 pm

Not a bad find.........for me its all about the beautiful yellow flowers telling us that spring is here.  
Here is a link to the one I took out of the garden a few years ago. https://ibonsaiclub.forumotion.com/t7278-forsythia-project
My experience has shown that I have to repot it every two years as the roots have completely encircled the pot and is starting to raise itself out of the pot.  I wire it in the winter and cut the wire off after the flowers have finished (before the new growth gets too far along).
Good luck with yours.
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Post  brian soldano Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:58 am

gman wrote:Not a bad find.........for me its all about the beautiful yellow flowers telling us that spring is here.  
Here is a link to the one I took out of the garden a few years ago. https://ibonsaiclub.forumotion.com/t7278-forsythia-project
My experience has shown that I have to repot it every two years as the roots have completely encircled the pot and is starting to raise itself out of the pot.  I wire it in the winter and cut the wire off after the flowers have finished (before the new growth gets too far along).
Good luck with yours.
Cheers
G.

very nice gman I have researched your post several times in my research for forsyth. Excellent work.

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Post  brian soldano Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:06 am

Thomas Urban wrote:Nice deal for something at Home Depot Smile

I would let it grow unchecked for a couple of years, lots of feeding, water and sun. Once you have many branches to choose from, hack it back hard, and wire it perhaps late summer. Don't worry about ramification but more about the first initial shape. Since it'll be healthy maybe it can go into a suitable pot that spring. So 2 years from now you'll have something wired and ready for a new pot in the spring. It'll look awesome right after you'll re-pot it too.

If it were mine, I would hack that straight section on the top and try to use the two bottom sub trunks/ branches to start something new.

Cheers
I was thinking the same spot for a chop. Wiring is tricky as it gets woody quick and hollow, so I'm leaning more toward clip and grow for another summer then letting growth go after I've established some movement and selection in the lower branching. The shoots if unchecked will grow straight as an arrow and lengths of 3+feet. So I think I will try to establish some more branching and movement. Then let it grow a season or two to bulk up a little bit and chop it back hard and get it into a pot then worm kn ramification. Thanks eveyone

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Post  Thomas Urban Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:47 am

So maybe wire this summer then eh? I know what you mean by getting woody too fast. Try that then, let it grow unchecked to about beginning of July, cut it back much more than you would think. I'd say leaving about 3 inches 5-6cm and wiring those. Then letting it grow unchecked again through the summer and wiring the second pair (Y) coming out of those first and then repot it the following spring perhaps.

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Post  abcd Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:54 pm

if you want a special tree , you can put it on a rock with enclosing rock roots, it's very easy and fast with this specie

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Post  brian soldano Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:24 pm

abcd wrote:if you want a special tree , you can put it on a rock with enclosing rock roots, it's very easy and fast with this specie

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awsome tree abcd... I've read the root growrh is rather vigorous, I will take some cuttings this coming season and get them to root in small water bottles placed ontop of a regular pot filled with soil. The plan is or will be to get the roots to grow down and stay slim to the trunk so I can make some exposed root trees... Some will have to be root over rock I think as well

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Post  brian soldano Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:15 am

Update. As you can. See I cut the long straight part and decided to build of the split of the lower branches. forsythia score Img_2022

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Post  Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:57 pm

i just KNEW your name sounded familiar yesterday when we were instagramming messages...

and then i just looked here and, sure enough - this is where i had seen your name before !
geek
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Post  brian soldano Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:51 pm

beer city snake wrote:i just KNEW your name sounded familiar yesterday when we were instagramming messages...

and then i just looked here and, sure enough - this is where i had seen your name before !
geek
yup same old hoodlum. Sorry for harassing you on ig but this place has been quiet for a while. I needed to bonsai chat with someone

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Post  LanceMac10 Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:22 pm

Did somebody mention, "Hoodlum?!?!?"
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Lots more traffic over at B-Nut.
And more folks in climates that I'm familiar with.
Still always pop my head in here daily.
Crickets and cobwebs, mostly..... lol! drunken
Soldano is near by.... Very Happy
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Post  Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:29 pm

tattoo artist and bonsainista ?
hhhmmmm perhaps a candidate for the AAC ? scratch

(lance re: b-nut - tooooo many sub-forums with-in the forum for my liking Mad )
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Post  brian soldano Wed Jun 08, 2016 11:04 pm

LanceMac10 wrote:Did somebody mention, "Hoodlum?!?!?"
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Lots more traffic over at B-Nut.
And more folks in climates that I'm familiar with.
Still always pop my head in here daily.
Crickets and cobwebs, mostly..... lol! drunken
Soldano is near by.... Very Happy

I am Lance. I actually work in Worcester a couple times a month and almost always stop into bonsai west. I'm bummed I missed the Mario seminer


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Post  brian soldano Wed Jun 08, 2016 11:05 pm

beer city snake wrote:tattoo artist and bonsainista ?
hhhmmmm perhaps a candidate for the AAC ? scratch

(lance re: b-nut - tooooo many sub-forums with-in the forum for my liking Mad )

I guess I'm not familiar with the aac. Is it a good thing? Haha

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Post  brian soldano Wed Jun 08, 2016 11:06 pm

Oh wait... arbor arts? Let me check it out.

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Post  Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:05 pm

brian soldano wrote:I am Lance.

there can be only one.

re the AAC and to avoid further digression on your topic at hand, check your PMs
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Post  MKBonsai Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:17 pm

I would definitely repot I into a shallower wider more rectangular training pot / box to get the root growth go laterally and to nd put more flare into the root buttress.

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Post  brian soldano Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:32 pm

MKBonsai wrote:I would definitely repot I into a shallower wider more rectangular training pot / box to get the root growth go laterally and to nd put more flare into the root buttress.

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even now that it's in active growth. All the first flush has just hardened off

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