Island from VietNam
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Re: Island from VietNam
IBC has an very special friend named Vung Nguyen Van, who once posted frequently. His stories of collecting are marvelous, and many of us have stayed in touch through email and/or social networks. Vung recently shared that he knows your brother, and I appreciated learning more of Nguyenhungson family collecting:
This week, Vung notes:
Your black stones are very interesting, perhaps even more engaging than those in the book. So are a wide variety of stones Vung has collected in Vietnam and displayed on IBC. Thanks for sharing.
Can you give us some idea of the size of your black stones? Vung sent me one as a gift which IBC moderator John Quinn delivered after visiting Vung. My gift from Vung is approximately 14cm/5.5" in length and illustrated here...
Nguyenhungson in German is the elder brother of a young guy named Hung living in Nhatrang. They have collected a lot of stones. Nha Trang is a small beach city so the stone circle becomes so big. As a matter of fact, I know his brother. He has long been my "hello" friend.
From 35-50 km away to the west of Nhatrang City is Khanh Vinh District where we often collect black stones along the Cai River. I appreciate this kind of stone from this river.
Another kind of black stone you may find from their posts is the "skull stone." It is not from river but collected from hills, and they are often modified to clear off the dirty surface.
This week, Vung notes:
It is a small world that we share. Here is the cover of a stone collector's book Vung has shared with friends.Big rains have been pouring for past two days causing floods around. The wicked currents often turn upside down the riverbanks and nice stones will come up to lucky hunters. Hopefully I will go to Khanh Vinh this Saturday to get some...
Your black stones are very interesting, perhaps even more engaging than those in the book. So are a wide variety of stones Vung has collected in Vietnam and displayed on IBC. Thanks for sharing.
Can you give us some idea of the size of your black stones? Vung sent me one as a gift which IBC moderator John Quinn delivered after visiting Vung. My gift from Vung is approximately 14cm/5.5" in length and illustrated here...
Chris Cochrane- Member
Re: Island from VietNam
I remove my foto
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Nguyenhungson- Member
Re: Island from VietNam
Thanks for the exceptional glimpse of size as well as illustration. They are larger than I imagined and more appreciated for falling in the range of stones which can be appreciated individually as well as in arrangements with other objects. The humility of a stone that can be carried in one hand (or easily in two hands) encourages significant engagement by the viewer in imagining a scenic feeling.
Landscape-view stones in the 6"/15cm-to-12"/30cm size are easily appreciated for intimate, individual viewing. Stones larger and smaller are equally valued when fulfilling their function. Larger stones can be helpful in public exhibits where seen at a distance as well as close. They are especially appreciated for drawing interest from new viewers. Additionally, extra length helps landscape-view stones which have little height or mass without the greater length. Landscape view stones which are palm-sized (under 4"/10cm) are easily appreciated when balanced among other objects in an arrangement-- it could be an arrangement of all stones in a multi-tiered stand.
While these are my personal preferences & influenced by Japanese practices, they might not be the preference for others or among their stone associates. I'd like to hear from Vietnamese collectors about their preferences. Vietnamese preference should inform viewers of Nguyenhungson's serious Vietnamese stone (and stone seating) collection. I look forward to continued opportunities to learn, here.
The Vietnamese stone from Vung has a natural bottom which is deeply set to assure that it sits at its best angle. That appears common in your stones, as well, Nguyenhungson. Are Vietnamese stones (limestone or otherwise) cut to assist artistic seating? Which options drive the decision for the Vietnamese carver of a stone's seat:
1. appreciate & protect the natural contour on the underside of a stone?
2. accept cutting the bottom of a stone to create a thin, understated seat?
3. accept cutting the bottom of a stone to ease mounting?
Thanks for sharing!
Landscape-view stones in the 6"/15cm-to-12"/30cm size are easily appreciated for intimate, individual viewing. Stones larger and smaller are equally valued when fulfilling their function. Larger stones can be helpful in public exhibits where seen at a distance as well as close. They are especially appreciated for drawing interest from new viewers. Additionally, extra length helps landscape-view stones which have little height or mass without the greater length. Landscape view stones which are palm-sized (under 4"/10cm) are easily appreciated when balanced among other objects in an arrangement-- it could be an arrangement of all stones in a multi-tiered stand.
While these are my personal preferences & influenced by Japanese practices, they might not be the preference for others or among their stone associates. I'd like to hear from Vietnamese collectors about their preferences. Vietnamese preference should inform viewers of Nguyenhungson's serious Vietnamese stone (and stone seating) collection. I look forward to continued opportunities to learn, here.
The Vietnamese stone from Vung has a natural bottom which is deeply set to assure that it sits at its best angle. That appears common in your stones, as well, Nguyenhungson. Are Vietnamese stones (limestone or otherwise) cut to assist artistic seating? Which options drive the decision for the Vietnamese carver of a stone's seat:
1. appreciate & protect the natural contour on the underside of a stone?
2. accept cutting the bottom of a stone to create a thin, understated seat?
3. accept cutting the bottom of a stone to ease mounting?
Thanks for sharing!
Chris Cochrane- Member
Re: Island from VietNam
Hi. Chris Cochrane.Chris Cochrane wrote:Thanks for the exceptional glimpse of size as well as illustration. They are larger than I imagined and more appreciated for falling in the range of stones which can be appreciated individually as well as in arrangements with other objects. The humility of a stone that can be carried in one hand (or easily in two hands) encourages significant engagement by the viewer in imagining a scenic feeling.
Landscape-view stones in the 6"/15cm-to-12"/30cm size are easily appreciated for intimate, individual viewing. Stones larger and smaller are equally valued when fulfilling their function. Larger stones can be helpful in public exhibits where seen at a distance as well as close. They are especially appreciated for drawing interest from new viewers. Additionally, extra length helps landscape-view stones which have little height or mass without the greater length. Landscape view stones which are palm-sized (under 4"/10cm) are easily appreciated when balanced among other objects in an arrangement-- it could be an arrangement of all stones in a multi-tiered stand.
While these are my personal preferences & influenced by Japanese practices, they might not be the preference for others or among their stone associates. I'd like to hear from Vietnamese collectors about their preferences. Vietnamese preference should inform viewers of Nguyenhungson's serious Vietnamese stone (and stone seating) collection. I look forward to continued opportunities to learn, here.
The Vietnamese stone from Vung has a natural bottom which is deeply set to assure that it sits at its best angle. That appears common in your stones, as well, Nguyenhungson. Are Vietnamese stones (limestone or otherwise) cut to assist artistic seating? Which options drive the decision for the Vietnamese carver of a stone's seat:
1. appreciate & protect the natural contour on the underside of a stone?
2. accept cutting the bottom of a stone to create a thin, understated seat?
3. accept cutting the bottom of a stone to ease mounting?
Thanks for sharing!
I have seen this stone collection from Nguyenhungson's younger brother many times in "Muabanda.com.vn" in Viet Nam and I think most of Vietnamese collectors enjoyed it. Suiseki is a new art to Vietnamese people and they have no many experiences in this art. Some people like stone's seat of Japan, some like Chinese seat with sophisticated carving, other have the caver follow their idea. Vietnamese collectors like to protect the natural contour on the underside of a stone. They often accept cutting the bottom of a stone when they have no choice because the stone has an unlevel bottom or it's too big or too heavy. This is my own opinion, I hope you will receive many opinions from another Vietnamese collectors, especially from Vung, a knowledgeable expert.
thientrakieu- Member
hi
Welcome you Thientrakieu visit.
collection of rocks on my brother in Vietnam, this was transferred to me, to travel to Vietnam. I enjoyed and Suiseki in place impression my hometown.
Nguyen Hung Son
collection of rocks on my brother in Vietnam, this was transferred to me, to travel to Vietnam. I enjoyed and Suiseki in place impression my hometown.
Nguyen Hung Son
Nguyenhungson- Member
Re: Island from VietNam
I would have no problem, with spending a hour, or two, by this beach
Thanks for sharing.
Kind regards Yvonne
Thanks for sharing.
Kind regards Yvonne
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