Identification help please
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Identification help please
Some 25 years ago my mother brought back some cuttings from a visit to Canada. Wherever she went she would take cuttings, from botanical gardens, nurseries, plant shows. Most of the time I had to stand guard..
Well this is a Prunus, it flowers with plain pale pink flowers early spring, the twigs are deep burgundy red, it has very dangerous thorns, the leaves have a tinge red and this year for the first time it has plums. I always assumed it was a Cherry, does anybody know what it is.
The overall image:
IMG_3505 by Arihato, on Flickr
The new growth, with in the righthand corner the thorns/spines
IMG_3506 by Arihato, on Flickr
The fruit is about 4 cm, I have not tasted it yet as it not ripe yet, btw is it edible?
IMG_3507 by Arihato, on Flickr
I have not been able to find it on the web but I would like to know
Well this is a Prunus, it flowers with plain pale pink flowers early spring, the twigs are deep burgundy red, it has very dangerous thorns, the leaves have a tinge red and this year for the first time it has plums. I always assumed it was a Cherry, does anybody know what it is.
The overall image:
IMG_3505 by Arihato, on Flickr
The new growth, with in the righthand corner the thorns/spines
IMG_3506 by Arihato, on Flickr
The fruit is about 4 cm, I have not tasted it yet as it not ripe yet, btw is it edible?
IMG_3507 by Arihato, on Flickr
I have not been able to find it on the web but I would like to know
arihato- Member
Re: Identification help please
The wild crabapples here have thorns, though not quite that wicked. I think that's what you have. It's my understanding that most of the natural crabapples have thorns, but the cultivated varieties have had the thorns bred out. As far as individual species goes, I am of no help.
Stan Kengai- Member
Re: Identification help please
You think it is a Crab, I'll have to cut the fruit to see whether it is crab or plum. The fruit has the shape of a plum.........
arihato- Member
Re: Identification help please
AlainK wrote:I'd say Prunus cerasifera.
Had and killed one, their bark is orange and leaves green.
GerhardGerber- Member
Re: Identification help please
To be more precise, Prunus cerasifera nigra: the leaves are red in the spring, turning a dark red or dark green in summer.
It is also called Prunus pissardii nigra.
It is also called Prunus pissardii nigra.
AlainK- Member
Re: Identification help please
Alain that could very well be it: Prunus cerasifera 'Pissardii Nigra'.
Now all I need is to confirm that the fruit is the same. And nowhere is there a mention of the large spikes my tree has.
Now all I need is to confirm that the fruit is the same. And nowhere is there a mention of the large spikes my tree has.
arihato- Member
Re: Identification help please
Maybe if you just try Prunus nigra you will get the specialized branches like the Rhus family....
but hell , please feel free to ignore me.
Love and light
but hell , please feel free to ignore me.
Love and light
Andre Beaurain- Member
Re: Identification help please
Andre, I was not ignoring you
All the searches on Prunus nigra got me Prunus cerasifera 'Nigra'. I did the search again and at the bottom there is a Wiki page on Prunus nigra aka Canada Plum or black plum.
The description looks to be right but the twig colour is not right on the pictures I find and the fruit colour differs........
So far it seems the best likeness is Prunus cerasifera 'Nigra'
All the searches on Prunus nigra got me Prunus cerasifera 'Nigra'. I did the search again and at the bottom there is a Wiki page on Prunus nigra aka Canada Plum or black plum.
The description looks to be right but the twig colour is not right on the pictures I find and the fruit colour differs........
So far it seems the best likeness is Prunus cerasifera 'Nigra'
arihato- Member
Re: Identification help please
Prunus cerasifera 'Pissardii Nigra' is occasionally spiky from what I read on this page from a (very good) French website:
http://nature.jardin.free.fr/arbre/ft_prunierornement.html
"Catégorie : arbre parfois épineux (...)"
I've just taken a photo of one of the very few fruit that the blackbirds haven't eaten yet:
http://nature.jardin.free.fr/arbre/ft_prunierornement.html
"Catégorie : arbre parfois épineux (...)"
I've just taken a photo of one of the very few fruit that the blackbirds haven't eaten yet:
AlainK- Member
Re: Identification help please
On second thought, this might well be Prunus x cistena: it ressembles P. crasifera, but it's smaller, the leaves don't stay as red as P. cerasifera throughout the season, and the fruit are a brighter red.
These ones are cuttings from what I believe is P. x cistena:
Spring:
Summer:
These ones are cuttings from what I believe is P. x cistena:
Spring:
Summer:
AlainK- Member
Re: Identification help please
arihato wrote:Andre, I was not ignoring you
So far it seems the best likeness is Prunus cerasifera 'Nigra'
hihi O thank God
Andre Beaurain- Member
Re: Identification help please
I just found out that it was a small seedling, not a rooted cutting my mother brought back from Canada. That's probably why it took 20 years to start flowering......
Had I know that, I would not have bothered this illustrious forum for species names.
The fact that it is a seedling would make it impossible to name as a variety. I'll just put a name on it, it has the best likeness to Prunus cerasifera 'Nigra', as far as flowers, fruit and twig colour goes.
Thank you for all your suggestions.
Had I know that, I would not have bothered this illustrious forum for species names.
The fact that it is a seedling would make it impossible to name as a variety. I'll just put a name on it, it has the best likeness to Prunus cerasifera 'Nigra', as far as flowers, fruit and twig colour goes.
Thank you for all your suggestions.
arihato- Member
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