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Post  Robert Steven on Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:25 pm

Here is a unique Premna. Most of the parts are dead except a thin living vein up to the small branch in front...
Go for a trial if you wish... Idea


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Post  Robert Steven on Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:37 pm

Too easy ?..now I comes the hard one... Dance


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Post  Guest on Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:43 pm

Hi Robert.
I'll go for the hard one first...


Reduced the volume of the wood and tilted the tree to the right side




Hope you like it.


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Post  cram on Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:10 pm

Razz
maybe because you find as me than the first one is the harder?
let s try one idea for each
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Post  Guest on Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:17 pm

No, the first one is very easy...hehehe. Just kidding Cram clown , maybe it is more difficult.

still for the second tree...



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Post  Guest on Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:43 pm

Hi Robert and Cram and IBC folks.

Ok here is for the first tree Cram.





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Post  cram on Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:48 pm

woo... What a Face
love your projects

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Post  Rob Kempinski on Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:51 pm

Yikes, Jun you are raising the bar. cheers Time to get to work. bounce bounce


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Post  Guest on Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:59 pm

No guys! you can do much better than my ideas. I am in the bottom of the food chain. hehehe.

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Post  marcus watts on Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:40 pm

here we go - tree one..............

Title - Hunting crane
Shohin -
Painted pot to show a lake scene where the striking beak of the Heron or crane is waiting for a passing fish

Foliage mass easily grown from the one living shoot -



can i buy it ? Very Happy Very Happy

Best wishes Marcus

the second tree Robert already has an good idea about as it looks like foliage is grafted in place already...........we need to use those shoots guys Very Happy haha

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Post  Robert Steven on Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:43 am

marcus watts wrote:can i buy it ? Very Happy Very Happy


the second tree Robert already has an good idea about as it looks like foliage is grafted in place already...........we need to use those shoots guys Very Happy haha

Marcus, good news...The Premna yamadori from Indonesia will be soon available on sale in Europe. A friend of mine is importing and very likely arrived Europe in February, but he wants me to wait till they arrived before telling any details... Very Happy

Re. My idea. Nooo Marcus. When I got this, it was grafted with Premna mycrophilla, but I don't like it because it can die back easily and I don't need such small leaves as the original (P. serratifolia) can be small enough compare to the tree size. I will take off all those and grow new branches... tongue

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Post  Robert Steven on Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:49 am

Here are among those that will go to Europe...




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Post  Rob Kempinski on Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:02 am

Prehistoric visions inspired this design.

You might have to shorten and steam the jin to bend it. Also rotate the tree toward the camera a bit for this design.

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Post  Rob Kempinski on Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:07 am

jun wrote:No, the first one is very easy...hehehe. Just kidding Cram clown , maybe it is more difficult.

still for the second tree...



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Good concept.


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Post  Rob Kempinski on Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:08 am

A bit of rotation and I see more extinct animals. This time it's the T-Rex with those little dangling arms. Smile
Pot by Erik Križovenský.


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Post  Robert Steven on Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:39 am

You are having good fun, Rob...I can see your holidays mood... Very Happy

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Post  marcus watts on Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:54 am

Robert Steven wrote:
Marcus, good news...The Premna yamadori from Indonesia will be soon available on sale in Europe. A friend of mine is importing and very likely arrived Europe in February, but he wants me to wait till they arrived before telling any details... Very Happy

Very interesting, keep us informed please -or PM me when the time is right. I also am planning my honeymoon for next year...........i'm leaving indonesia hints for Mandy to spot - she laughed and said is there going to be bonsai involved Laughing

best wishes Marcus

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Post  Robert Steven on Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:02 am

OK Marcus. Let me know if you are coming..you are mostly welcome...
Tell her, there are not only bonsai in Indonesia..here is also the paradise for shopping...we have the best and the biggest and most luxury shopping centers in Asia if not in the world (not kidding).

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Post  Sam Ogranaja on Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:25 pm

Rob Kempinski wrote:
jun wrote:No, the first one is very easy...hehehe. Just kidding Cram clown , maybe it is more difficult.

still for the second tree...



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jun Smile

Good concept.


I second that. Great vision Jun!!!!

Great job Robert. I really enjoy your posts here. So far you have been my most influential experience in the bonsai world. Your books and your posts have helped me leaps and bounds. You keep posting these design challenges and I may have to hook up my OLD computer with Photoshop on it. I want to get in on this deal. LOL

Merry Christmas to everyone!!!!
Sam

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Post  Robert Steven on Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:28 pm

Thanks Sam. I like Jun's vision as well..he is getting wild and we have so many in common... Very Happy

All the best to you too....

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Post  carlos on Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:50 pm

Robert Steven wrote:
marcus watts wrote:can i buy it ? Very Happy Very Happy


the second tree Robert already has an good idea about as it looks like foliage is grafted in place already...........we need to use those shoots guys Very Happy haha

Marcus, good news...The Premna yamadori from Indonesia will be soon available on sale in Europe. A friend of mine is importing and very likely arrived Europe in February, but he wants me to wait till they arrived before telling any details... Very Happy

Re. My idea. Nooo Marcus. When I got this, it was grafted with Premna mycrophilla, but I don't like it because it can die back easily and I don't need such small leaves as the original (P. serratifolia) can be small enough compare to the tree size. I will take off all those and grow new branches... tongue

Premna in Europe? Will it survive? In my opinion, I believe that depending on the country, they won't survive the cold. Just a thought...

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Post  Robert Steven on Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:57 pm

Carlos, it will survive in some countries... For sure, it will survivein Florida, but just no way to ship to USA now. Too complicated... Mad

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Post  Robert Steven on Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:01 pm

Well..for the second one, I like all your vision; but I have been viewing around again today, unfortunately it doesn't work due to the perspective and dimension in reality. Seems one of the most possibility is to make it into cascade, but some jin should be gone or shorten...


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Post  Rob Kempinski on Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:39 pm

Robert Steven wrote:Carlos, it will survive in some countries... For sure, it will survivein Florida, but just no way to ship to USA now. Too complicated... Mad

I can confirm they do very well in Florida. Smile I have several shohin and hundred of cuttings but nothing terribly intricate like specimens collected from the woods. However, they are fast growing and are great for tanuki/phoenix graft - maybe the best specimen I've seen for making a tanuki/phoenix graft. Even have several in the ground to fatten them up.

Others in Florida have cutting so in a few years we will have interesting material to work with.

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Post  Guest on Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:19 am

Robert Steven wrote:Thanks Sam. I like Jun's vision as well..he is getting wild and we have so many in common... Very Happy

All the best to you too....

Thanks Guys, all of you. You've been good teachers (novice and masters/experts alike) to me...

Hey Robert. Is getting wild a Bad or a Good thing?... I got some extra conservative trees too, Styled in the strict ways of the Japanese.( I'll post it soon hehehe).


"We have so many in common"-----I assume that's love for beers, and appreciation for beautiful women. Razz



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