which design is better? casuarina/iron wood

Hi IBC.

this little tree is really pushing me to the limit of my imagination ( which is quite limited ). while checking on the previous styling i did, i saw this option, which is also okey. before the branches grows beyond bending i must decide...d@#n this tree! if you guys can help me out which is better please do so.




the other option



this is the initial form.

regards,
jun

Hi Jun, great material. I would use the first image and rotate the tree a little for ballance
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Hello Justin. Did you mean the second not first? I would go with Justins Idea Jun. The tree in this position seems to have a reasonable root base. With the semi cascade option, the nebari would be buried.

I,m with Will on this, that nice Nebari would be lost in a cascade

regards Alex e

Justin,
Hi.
thanks for the input.

regards,
jun


Will,

thanks.

regards,
jun


alex,

thanks.

regards,
jun

Agreed! By far the better option IMO.

Jun,

I have to disagree with me esteemed colleagues.

I think that this material is much more dramatic as a semi-cascade. I do agree that the nebari is too nice to bury. That's why I would use a crescent pot. This would help keep the nebari exposed, but also take advantage of the dramatic movement in the trunk.

Good luck,
Ed

MACH5,

thanks. i appreciate your opinion.

Regards,
jun


Ed,

thanks.
actually thats what makes me think twice upon seeing the possibility of a semi cascade design. i think i can still exposed some nebari even with a semi cascade design,but much of the nebari would be under the soil.
i forgot to mention that though the highlight of the slanting design would be the twisted trunk and the nice nebari,
im having a problem with the lack of branch on the right side of the tree. unlike the semi cascade design where the branches would be all placed above the twisted trunk, and the part of the tree without the branch would be the under side.
this is why i consulted you guys for opinions, to get some more perspective on the possibilities.

regards,
jun

Surely, semi cascade will be much better.

Budi

Budi Sulistyo wrote:Surely, semi cascade will be much better.

Budi

I dont agree, Budi. The distance between the nebari and the elbow is too far in my opinion.

Budi,

thanks a lot.

regards,
jun



Will,

il take another look on the actual tree, probably change angle a bit.

thanks.

regards,
jun

Hello Jun. I have trouble seeing this tree fitting in a semi cascade or crescent pot. The distance with the arrow is too long.

Hi will.
thanks.

how about a full cascade? tilting and dropping more of the trunk perhaps. in a deeper pot, do think i will encounter same problem? i really want a this before to be slanting. but like i said, got problem with right side branch. all branches are coming from only 2 areas as seen in the second photo.

regards,
jun

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Leave it like this, just fasten the pot it's in to the side of the building.

No really, the nebari would be a problem, but the rest of the presentation is better as a cascade. JMO!

Jay

Perhaps our conceptions of a "vessel" is skewing our view. As a semi-cascade, I see a gorgeous tree clinging to the side of a mountain. The appropriate rock could utilize the nebari to actually enhance this image.

Jay,

thanks.
fasten the pot to a building wall- what a terrific idea it is. but not this pot though, this is for growing the tree.i got a pot that can be fasten to a wall for a cascade design. il show it you.

thanks for the input on the possible nebari problem, got to do much thinking on this tree.

regards,
jun

mbolos,

thanks.
might work as well! it worked on my phempis with similar problem. post it later so youl see if it will work.

regards,
jun

"...with great possibilities, comes with great headache"- spiderman

I thought it was "with great, powerful trunks comes great responsibility"?

jun wrote:Hi will.
thanks.

how about a full cascade? tilting and dropping more of the trunk perhaps. in a deeper pot, do think i will encounter same problem? i really want a this before to be slanting. but like i said, got problem with right side branch. all branches are coming from only 2 areas as seen in the second photo.

regards,
jun

Tilting the tree over much more and the roots will be upside down. If your heart is set on a cascade, then what about planting it up underneath an overhanging rock?

...thats too extreme for me Will.
no, my heart is still undecided yet on what to design to adopt. that is why im weighing im options and asking others point of view
to get as much insight as i can.

regards,
jun

jun wrote:...thats too extreme for me Will.
no, my heart is still undecided yet on what to design to adopt. that is why im weighing im options and asking others point of view
to get as much insight as i can.

regards,
jun

Too extreme Jun???? What about the rock/ pot sandwich thing, youve got going on

...thats a regular tree planted in a regular position on an extra irregular pot and rock... your other idea is quite intriguing though. the only difference is that the tree this time will be in the irregular/uncommon position in a regular rock and pot.. im still a conservative type of guy you know, when it comes to the tree.
you just have given me a new idea though, but not for this casuarina...this tree is too precious to be sacrifice for new experiment.

regards,
jun

Any other angles possible to view, seeking improvement of the solutions avaliable?
Is there more root base burried in the pot e.g.?

Regards
Morten Albek

Morten,

thanks.
that is the beauty of this tree. since its a twisted trunk, with natural shari and jin, and yes nebari is more complete under the soil,all angles can be used and almost all the design can be achieved with this tree... even upside down as will had suggested.

no photo available now for other angles. i will take some more. but may I say in advance, it will get more challenging and confusing after i posted it.

regards,
jun