Another ironwood type - peltaflora

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Another ironwood type - peltaflora

Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:48 pm

I saw this tree years ago as a bonsai in the local Horticultural show and have always been fascinated by it. The leaflets seem to float, as the connections are so very fine.
Originally pencil thick and grown in a half barrel for about 5 years, allowed to do whatever it wished.

Wounds heal exceptionally well and they can be almost any size. In fact I don't know if there is a limit to the size.

Bark will peel off of the entire tree. A few months ago this tree was dark green of bark.

This one was dug up last year and was potted to reform the root core.
This year I will work on the first three branches.
Full sun and easy to grow.
Enjoy.
Comments - yay or nay as you wish.
Khaimraj



Look closely at the leaflets. Amazing huh ?

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Re: Another ironwood type - peltaflora

Post  Tzung Tzan on Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:24 pm

Khaimraj, thats will be a nice tree one day especially with the foliage, how old is it? In Australia, we got Acacia trees that look abit like that.

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Re: Another ironwood type - peltaflora

Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:24 pm

Zen,

I don't know how long it was kept at the pencil stage, but I doubt it is 10 years old.

I have grown the local acacia, which we used to call A. Giraffea, but on reading it seems we have a local acacia, as we also have a local podocarpus. weird!

There is another ironwood type with a similar look, but I think that is called locally, leopard bark ?

Looked in on I believe your garden, but it was so much to absorb. I am still working with 15' x 2 ' wide by 3 or 4 feet tall iron [ heat exchanger stands ] made for me about roughly 20 years ago.
I say 3 or 4 feet tall, as they are on the lawn and have sunk down into the clay soil.
Well thanks for looking.
Khaimraj

[ Are you J from down under ?]

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Re: Another ironwood type - peltaflora

Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:05 pm

Mature trees -




close-up of trunk

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Re: Another ironwood type - peltaflora

Post  Randy_Davis on Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:54 am

Khaimraj Seepersad wrote:Mature trees -

Khaimraj,

Such inspiring trees! What a gorgeous trunk!!!!! Thanks for the inspiration.

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Re: Another ironwood type - peltaflora

Post  Pola on Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:36 am

Very nice!

I have four of those that are currently pencil thick and one a bit thicker that i am growing from seed. Such a beautiful foliage. I'm confused,you see,i read somewhere that this was Caelsalpinia Ferrea,but i did a quick search and the Ferrea variety looks different in other web pages... Confused
I'm sure what i have is the same as yours. I got the seeds from a tree at the mall where my girlfriend works at. Very long thin branches,yellow flowers,peeled bark,beautiful small leaflets,legume type seed pod....is it the same?

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Re: Another ironwood type - peltaflora

Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:04 am

Randy,

what was really interesting, were the pencils of peeled bark.
Since I know that this tree can be lopped and after a few months of appearing dead, new shoots will just pop out all over, I am going to spend all the time trying to get that trunk effect, forget the branches.

Pola,

there is a good chance I mixed up the names or there has been a re-naming, I will call our Herbarium today and see if they can clear up the matter.

Well unless you are into 6 inch [ 15 cm ] tall trees, wouldn't you think it was time to get some large pots. I have also seen these trees done as a forest. So you have options.
Shall we grow together ?
Until later.
Khaimraj

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Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:09 am

Pola,

http://www.bonsaihunk.us/info/CaesalpinaFerrea.html

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Re: Another ironwood type - peltaflora

Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:24 am

Pola,

I see the confusion.
Khaimraj


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Re: Another ironwood type - peltaflora

Post  ogie on Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:22 pm

i like this tree's character....wow,thanks for sharing cheers

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Re: Another ironwood type - peltaflora

Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:35 pm

Your most welcome Alex !!
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Pola, the folks at the Herbarium told that they would need flowers and pods to make a positive identification. The two trees are easily mixed up.

The correct Latin Name I had was - Peltaphorum Ferruginum [ spelling ?]
One is from Asia, the other from Brazil - I believe ?

Anyhow, great potential for Bonsai.
Khaimraj

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Re: Another ironwood type - peltaflora

Post  Kev Bailey on Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:31 pm

The correct spelling is Peltophorum ferrugineum, note the small f for the second part. That is all I can add though. Does look like a lovely muscular trunked species.

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Re: Another ironwood type - peltaflora

Post  Jerry Meislik on Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:56 pm

Dear Khaimraj,
Your tree does look a lot like Caesalpinia ferrea but without good pictures of the leaves, and the seed pod a firm ID would be impossible.
Anyway, I do like the bark of your tree and the nice base.
It should not be long for you to get the tree to show ready state.
Keep us posted.
Jerry
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Re: Another ironwood type - peltaflora

Post  Pola on Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:03 am

Khaimraj...

Mine are in the ground. Still need alot of thickening to do to be able to give them their first chop. Thanks for the info! ThumbsUp

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Re: Another ironwood type - peltaflora

Post  fM on Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:13 am

Khaimraj and Polat hank you for the information of the species, I am form Mexico and looked very much the name of the ferreous caesalpinia, now I have the necessary information to work with, thank you very much, regards to all... sorry for my english

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Post  fM on Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:14 am

Khaimraj: beautifull especie and the tree too, good work friend

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Post  Pola on Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:38 am

Hi there fm!!
Estas trabajando con esta especie? A mi me parece tremendo material para bonsai,por eso sembre unas semillas y estoy en espera de que los palitos engorden lo suficiente para asi comenzar el proceso de bonsai. Buena suerte!!

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Re: Another ironwood type - peltaflora

Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:37 pm

From Past Exhibitions -

Not mine. Sizes I don't recall.
Khaimraj

Hello F.M and Hello Pola !




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Re: Another ironwood type - peltaflora

Post  fM on Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:21 am

Hola a todos, Pola apenas comence a tratar de germinar las semillas y me robaron el semillero, pero por aca estamos en la temporada para recolectar semillas y en estos dias visitare este arbol; fijate qe por aca en en Mexico virtualmente hablando no he visto a nadie qe trabaje con esta especie tan hermosa, ademas hay pocos ejemplares asi qe tratare lo mas qe pueda de multiplicarlos:

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Saludos hasta P.R. y de nuevo gracias

Khaimraj gracias tambien muy bella especie para bonsai

saludos... Flavio

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Re: Another ironwood type - peltaflora

Post  Pola on Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:24 am

Those are nice, Khaimraj!!
Can't wait to get to work on mine! Maybe in a couple of years they'll be ready for their first chop...
Laughing

fM...
te robaron el semillero? Que mal!! Mad
Buena suerte con las proximas semillas. No son tan dificiles de germinar. ThumbsUp

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Re: Another ironwood type - peltaflora

Post  fM on Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:59 pm

Asi es Pola =S me las desaparecieron de mi patio, no sabia qe eran dificiles seguire intentando; saludos hasta P.R.

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another iron wood

Post  moyogijohn on Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:17 pm

Khaimraj,,,,That is a nice looking tree,,i really like the trunk...do you know the common u.s. name?? will it be a broom style tree?? the branches and leaves look like they are delicate is it compound leaves?? good work so far..take care john

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Re: Another ironwood type - peltaflora

Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:29 pm

John, hello,

all I know it as is - ironwood.

I would like it to resemble the park tree, so I guess a broom would be correct. Yes, the leaflets seem to float on air, which is how it first impacted on me visually at the Horticultural show back in 87 or so.
You may or may not have seen me telling Jun, that his tree was so beautiful, he could exhibit it in a cake pan, and you would not see the pan, because of his tree's beauty.

Well that is how I first saw the ironwood, in an aluminium cake pan, chuckle , in mud. Strong tree.

Next year it's placing main branches and healing wounds. I will show again when I have achieved both.
Stay well.
Khaimraj




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