Why a Makita or Dremel will never create 'Natural' deadwood

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Why a Makita or Dremel will never create 'Natural' deadwood

Post  Tony on Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:18 pm

This is a Yew Bonsai that I am working. I have just jin sealed the deadwood after a very thorough cleaning. The tree has had its first styling and is NOT representative of the final image so I will NOT be posting the whole tree so do not ask... if you want to see the whole tree the only way is to visit my garden Razz



















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Re: Why a Makita or Dremel will never create 'Natural' deadwood

Post  Lee Brindley on Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:32 pm

Very nice. ThumbsUp

tony wrote:This is a Yew Bonsai that I am working. I have just jin sealed the deadwood after a very thorough cleaning. The tree has had its first styling and is NOT representative of the final image so I will NOT be posting the whole tree so do not ask... if you want to see the whole tree the only way is to visit my garden Razz

Is that an open invitation Tony? Dance


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Re: Why a Makita or Dremel will never create 'Natural' deadwood

Post  chris on Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:33 pm

Stunning Tony, looking forward to seeing it in the flesh so to speak in November

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Re: Why a Makita or Dremel will never create 'Natural' deadwood

Post  Tony on Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:35 pm

Lee Brindley wrote:Very nice. ThumbsUp Is that an open invitation Tony? Dance

My Door (gate) is always open.


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Re: Why a Makita or Dremel will never create 'Natural' deadwood

Post  Lee Brindley on Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:42 pm

tony wrote:
Lee Brindley wrote:Very nice. ThumbsUp Is that an open invitation Tony? Dance

My Door (gate) is always open.


I will take you up on that Tony. Thanks very much. Very Happy I will send you a PM.

Can you tell us any more about what chemicals you have used to clean and seal the wood? Have you not used any powertools at all or hand tools for carving?
Thanks, Lee.

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Re: Why a Makita or Dremel will never create 'Natural' deadwood

Post  Tony on Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:43 pm

Hi Lee... NO machine tools have been used on this tree... where possible a 130psi Jet washer has been used to clean the wood... the rest is all by hand/natural


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Re: Why a Makita or Dremel will never create 'Natural' deadwood

Post  Lee Brindley on Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:45 pm

And the jin seal?

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Post  Tony on Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:53 pm

Lee Brindley wrote:And the jin seal?
just jin seal.... nothing else Cool

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Re: Why a Makita or Dremel will never create 'Natural' deadwood

Post  Pavel Slovák on Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:54 pm

Hi Tony
It looks beautiful. I look forward to seeing a tree. Sometimes. Wink Very Happy
Gretings Pavel

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Re: Why a Makita or Dremel will never create 'Natural' deadwood

Post  Andrija Zokic on Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:06 pm

Nice deadwood but look what practice can do:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KTTB9kuC9_Q/TGAlg3wruYI/AAAAAAAAArA/udMaL7Ty9SY/s1600/veiled+christ.jpg
http://images.artfinding.com/lot/_145/claudio_boltiansky_artfinding_risorgimento_allegory_marble_sculpture_12088483785961.jpg
http://wapedia.mobi/thumb/4d8e504/en/fixed/470/470/Laoco%25C3%25B6n_and_His_Sons.jpg?format=jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfktottdO11qdy7vgo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1312832532&Signature=XDSj8s0bZNzCRR%2F823sobAbQ%2Foo%3D
http://alexcolao.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/bernini_st_teresa_avila.jpg

Everything is made by human hand.

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Re: Why a Makita or Dremel will never create 'Natural' deadwood

Post  marcus watts on Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:47 pm

Andrija Zokic wrote:Nice deadwood but look what practice can do:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KTTB9kuC9_Q/TGAlg3wruYI/AAAAAAAAArA/udMaL7Ty9SY/s1600/veiled+christ.jpg
http://images.artfinding.com/lot/_145/claudio_boltiansky_artfinding_risorgimento_allegory_marble_sculpture_12088483785961.jpg
http://wapedia.mobi/thumb/4d8e504/en/fixed/470/470/Laoco%25C3%25B6n_and_His_Sons.jpg?format=jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfktottdO11qdy7vgo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1312832532&Signature=XDSj8s0bZNzCRR%2F823sobAbQ%2Foo%3D
http://alexcolao.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/bernini_st_teresa_avila.jpg

Everything is made by human hand.

everything artificial is made by human hand and it will always be just that... (and the stone carvings you show are ok as bits of art) but true nature is always more credible.

Tony,
lovely deadwood, beautifully cleaned, i love my pressure washer and sand blaster for natural cleaning - especially when there is a little bit of natural rot and softer wood to blow away. plus time - the grain gets better and better just left alone.

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Re: Why a Makita or Dremel will never create 'Natural' deadwood

Post  Tony on Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:51 pm

Andrija Zokic wrote:Everything is made by human hand.

I get your point Andrija... I doubt that they used a Matika though Cool


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Re: Why a Makita or Dremel will never create 'Natural' deadwood

Post  Rob Kempinski on Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:51 am

Nice work Tony. The patterns almost have an ethereal feel. Can wait to see them with the full tree - in time I know....

BTW have you seen the article in the most recent issue of Bonsai and Stone Appreciation Magazine (BCI's magazine)? It has a very relevant article by Italian artist and BCI Board member, Massimo Bandera, about carving and aging jin with time. The 10 + year progression he shows of his larch is absolutely incredible. Talk about forgetting a Makita (die grinder)


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Re: Why a Makita or Dremel will never create 'Natural' deadwood

Post  Justin Hervey on Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:55 am

It is well documented that Michaelangelo used a Dremel with a foot pump.

But seriously, wonderful dead-wood Tony and I agree it can't be matched artificially. I so often see a beautiful sections of natural deadwood and carved areas on the same tree, it gives me shivers.

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Re: Why a Makita or Dremel will never create 'Natural' deadwood

Post  Andrija Zokic on Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:32 am

Justin Hervey wrote:It is well documented that Michaelangelo used a Dremel with a foot pump.

Contemporary sculptors are using power tools while working in stone, it is faster.

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Re: Why a Makita or Dremel will never create 'Natural' deadwood

Post  Tony on Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:35 am

Andrija Zokic wrote:
Justin Hervey wrote:It is well documented that Michaelangelo used a Dremel with a foot pump.

Contemporary sculptors are using power tools while working in stone, it is faster.

And many new mass produced 'sculptures' are created using computerised 3D carving here

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Deadwood

Post  David Carvalho on Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:27 pm

Hello Tony,

I have seen this tree on your facebook and I must say that the deadwood work is perfect, not only the bits "carved" are very difficult to distinguish has they blend perfectly in the natural deadwood, and we are talking about a "very recent" work, with time Im sure the deadwood carved will gain that grain and texture that in the future will make it impossible to distinguish natural from "man made" deadwood.

The natural deadwood is simply outstanding, by far one of the best I've seen so far on European Taxus.

Congratulations on the amazing work,

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Re: Why a Makita or Dremel will never create 'Natural' deadwood

Post  Andrija Zokic on Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:03 pm

Tony, don't get me wrong, I also think that deadwood on this Taxus is brilliant.

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Re: Why a Makita or Dremel will never create 'Natural' deadwood

Post  Tony on Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:18 pm

Andrija Zokic wrote:Tony, don't get me wrong, I also think that deadwood on this Taxus is brilliant.

Hi Andrija... I know your point and it was well put... I was provocative in my original statement... thanks for the challenge!

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Re: Why a Makita or Dremel will never create 'Natural' deadwood

Post  Nik Rozman on Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:01 pm

Very well done. Smile

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Re: Why a Makita or Dremel will never create 'Natural' deadwood

Post  mike page on Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:47 pm

Congratulations to Mother Nature for a fabulous creation, and congratulations to Tony for finding it and preserving it as bonsai.

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