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Post  zooloo10 on Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:04 pm

hi its zac,
can you layer the trunk of a tree to make it shorter. the tree grows up about 2 feet then splits into two main branches. it is growing in the wild of my back yard and I think it would look great as a twin trunk tree.

here are pictures

this is a general picture of the tree it goes a bit higher than in the picture mabey a foot or two more (the picture is sideways)


i want to layer the tree within the red area. But i'm not sure if layering on the main trunk will just kill the entire tree.

also i need some help figuring out what kind of tree it is
below is a picture of the foliage


the leaves seem to grow in clusters of about 6 or 7 they vary in size from tiny(like 1 cm) to about 2 inches long. i haven't seen any flowers but the way the leaves are it almost looks like an azalea variation.

thanks to anyone who can help,
zac

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Re: layering question

Post  AlainK on Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:15 pm

I don't know what species it is, if it is good for bonsai and if air-layering is easy with it, but if I did air-layer it for a twin i would peel a ring of bark a little higher so that the roots would develop at the base of the two trunks.


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Post  zooloo10 on Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:21 pm

hi Alain,
Do you know if layering the main trunk would kill the tree?

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Post  AlainK on Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:25 pm

I'm not sure i understand what you mean: if the question is "When I remove the layered part, will the tree die?", the answer is definitely no, the lower part will produce new shoots, just like when you prune a tree.

If you mean layering it lower, the answer is no: even if you layer it almost at ground level, the chances that new shoots will appear are very high.

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Post  zooloo10 on Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:02 pm

ok, i was thinking the while layering the tree would die, because I the bark and cabium helped transport some important nourishment.

thanks zac

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Post  zooloo10 on Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:07 am

i found both of these kinds of leaves on the tree

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Re: layering question

Post  Todd Ellis on Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:15 am

The tree looks like a crab apple tree to me. They often have leaves with one or two lobes on leaves, particularly on young trees. I had the same concerns about killing trees by layering too. However, I learned that the trees, when layered, are still able to get water and nutrients.

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Post  zooloo10 on Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:03 pm

ok i found tiny berries, less than .5 inches and they are green right now. i think i missed the spring flowers on it though.

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Re: layering question

Post  AlainK on Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:45 pm

Todd Ellis wrote:The tree looks like a crab apple tree to me. They often have leaves with one or two lobes on leaves, particularly on young trees.

I agree with you. the bark too makes me think of some kind of wild apple-tree.

In that case, layering is no problem.

You can also take root-cuttings with these species, at the end of winter.

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Post  zooloo10 on Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:33 pm

thanks Alain and Todd for the advice. i will layer just bellow the split so i can have a twin trunk.

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