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Post  Joe Hatfield on Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:10 pm

I think Jim Lewis ID'ed this as a Hophornbeam last year when I collected it. Seems to be doing well in its new poly-resin pot. I will be reducing the top. Just wanted to take it slow. I have never worked with these before. Suggestions please.










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Post  Guest on Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:05 pm

I have made some suggestions for pruning your Hornbeam. Allow a little stub when cutting back as there are tiny buds at the bases of the branches. I have also left the leader slightly too long as I don't know where it will bud. I think the fat downward root should go and the soil level raised slightly

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Post  Joe Hatfield on Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:52 pm

Thank you Will. You have supported the cuts I had been thinking about making as I was potting this up for the first time since the training pot. This is the first full season it has been out of the ground. I was also thinking it should be a little deeper. I did not reduce any roots, this time around other then a a larger tap- like root that was coming of the bottom

When should I make these cuts ( time of the year?) And should my cuts leave at least one bud? Or is that not a real concern with the Hophornbeams?

This thing is a bit on the ugly side, I know. But, I think that it might fun to work with and might produce a interesting look. Just gotta get it there.

Thanks again for the suggestions.

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Post  austinheitzman on Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:10 pm

third picture is your front, cut down to the lower buds- make a nice little broomish tree, hollow trunk, its old, its been through a lot, its hollow, its in a field.

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Post  Joe Hatfield on Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:45 pm

Smile Yes Austin it old and hollow... HAHA. I agree that three is the best front. I will be making my chops when the time is right. I have to do some reading.

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Post  Guest on Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:59 pm

I don't think your choice of front is the best option. I think it will make a much better informal upright. If the buds are swelling, it's time to make those cuts.

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Post  Joe Hatfield on Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:22 am

Thanks Will, Ill make some cuts tomorrow and try to find a more suitable pot to get it a little deeper. I see your angle on the infromal and I like it. I think I'm hoping to get that hollow look tied in somehow. Let see how it goes. I'll take some pics after I make the chops.

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Post  JimLewis on Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:56 pm

If you just repotted -- or even repotted last year -- I don't think I'd redo it now. This pot is fine for a while. If this is a Hophornbeam -- and I don't remember it, and can't ID it from a leafless photo -- you don't treat it quite like a hornbeam. They're only vaguely related: Hophornbeam is genus Ostrya.; hornbeam is Carpinus.

Hophornbeam like much less moisture in the soil. It has always seemed to me that hophornbeam are attacked by many more kinds of bugs -- including borers and beetles. So keep your eyes open.

I too think you need to cut it back. I'd leave a bud below every cut, though; otherwise, "backbudding" is likely to take the form of root sprouts.

I haven't seen a hophornbeam for years. They must not live up here in the Blue Ridge foothills.

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Post  Joe Hatfield on Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:22 pm

When I dug this out I left the branches you see in the picture, nothing was done to it other then the initial trimming. The same season it was put into a training pot, as Jim said, it shots buds off the exposed roots as well as the top.

In my haste this morning, I made the cuts. Perhaps not a good idea being that the tree is newly recovered but, It has a load of roots. And I have just put the NIcotine Patch on my arm so I'm in a destructive mood I guess affraid

The part that I cut off (the one with the "suckers" ) has many roots and I believe will also survive. Although it is but a spec of tree.

Cut paste was applied to the Parent.

Thanks everyone for their time

Joe

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Post  moyogijohn on Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:43 pm

My opion Wills front and cuts will make your tree..the root needs to come off because it looks like it does not go into the soil...think it will make a nice tree.... John

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Post  JimLewis on Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:09 pm

And I have just put the NIcotine Patch on my arm

Congratulations! Tell that redheaded girl to give you a whap if you backslide. Good Luck.

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Post  Joe Hatfield on Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:35 pm

JimLewis wrote:
And I have just put the NIcotine Patch on my arm

Congratulations! Tell that redheaded girl to give you a whap if you backslide. Good Luck.

Thanks Jim I need all I can get!

I told Heather that the booklet said I can reward myself at certain milestones. She looked over and said, "We don't have any room for more bonsai."

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