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Post  savvas on Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:04 pm

This tree was colected almost a year ago.It reacted very quickly,it is avery healthy and powerfull tree.Its base is 40cmx30cm and its height without any reductions is 50cm.Its one of my favourite trees and i like to share it with you...All comments and ideas are wellcomed.Its this kind of material that you should know what to do with it because i believe it has a good future...Virtuals are wellcomed quys......








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Post  cosmos on Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:02 pm

A very massive wild olive. It has a great potential. But can you inlcude more pics from different angles pl.

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Post  cosmos on Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:22 pm



One option.

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Post  Budi Sulistyo on Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:29 pm

Nice material. It will be good to see the progress in the future.

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Post  savvas on Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:17 pm

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Some very dirty sketches i did at work....Simple staff as thoughts came through my mind....
Thx for your replies quys..
Cosmos nice virtual there....thats an option...Lets see.

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Post  Greg on Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:07 pm

great!
First class material with endless options.
keep us inform thumbs up


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Post  my nellie on Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:50 pm

Lots of potential, Savvas.
savvas wrote: Some very dirty sketches i did at work....Simple staff as thoughts came through my mind....... ...
Why do you want to style an olive like a pine?

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Post  adam1234 on Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:49 am



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Post  Guest on Thu Oct 25, 2012 3:03 am

Hello Savvas!

This is my idea for your Olive.
A couple of notes if it were mine:
Additional enhancement for the deadwood and holes to make it more matured "olive looking" tree
The size and base of the trunk is going to be a killer someday,,,but you need massive primary branches to balance the powerful appearance of the tree...so it will take more time.







regards,
jun Smile

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Post  savvas on Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:52 pm

my nellie wrote:Lots of potential, Savvas.
savvas wrote: Some very dirty sketches i did at work....Simple staff as thoughts came through my mind....... ...
Why do you want to style an olive like a pine?
As i said it was just very very rough sketches and primary thoughts...You are right Alexandra thse were Ithe thoughts that came through my mind as well,and thats a global debate actualy....
Anyway the sketches the quys made are super so mine go down the dustbin....By the way thank you guys for the time and effort you put on those drawings,very nice indeed...Super.
When Graham saw this tree 6-7 months ago he said that you would have developed the appex right where the second older branch is(if you can see it from the pictures)and develop a powerfull tree.I quess thats where about Jun made the apex on his drawing.That sounded too short for me but now i see that nearly all the options are round about there.
To be quite honest with you guys i am not that equiped and skillfull to deal with such material so i will take it very slowly and not make stupid mistakes.


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Post  Sakaki on Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:33 pm

Hi Savvas

If it would be mine I would exactly go through jun's advise & virt.
Imho, dont worry much about your skills or equipment, this is a powerfull tree/species reducing need for superior skills that you would otherwise need with some other species (since it is a kind that always tolerate faults somehow).
I prefer to develop myself by working on a wild olive instead of a JBP Smile

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Post  Guest on Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:53 am

Thanks Savvas and Tanner.


...and yes, don't worry much about styling this tree. It will take lot of time to develop the material if you were to try the idea I made. maybe you could ask somebody you trust to do the shari/deadwood for you. for the meantime, if you are now decided on the design based on Mr Graham advice and mine. Just strip the appear portion of its bark (kill the upper part) to prepare it for future woodworks, and to concentrate the strength/energy of the tree on developing the lower part.

Goodluck!


regards,
jun Smile

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Post  savvas on Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:43 pm

Thx for your advice guys...Jun i allready did some peeling off but you are right if i finally decide to lower it even more i should peel off much more.Taner you are right,and i agree with you olives tolerate mistakes and give you time nevertheless with such material its better if you know what you are doing...this doesnt mean that i will stop,no way..but i will take one step at a time,and i will develop with the tree.....

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Post  Fore on Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:06 pm

Great material, and a great virt Jun! Boy some of you guys have serious skills!

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Post  my nellie on Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:13 pm

Sakaki wrote:... ...If it would be mine I would exactly go through jun's advise & virt... ...
Me, too! This is far better, Savvas!

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Post  savvas on Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:16 pm

my nellie wrote:
Sakaki wrote:... ...If it would be mine I would exactly go through jun's advise & virt... ...
Me, too! This is far better, Savvas!
No doubt..... ThumbsUp thumbs up ThumbsUp

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Post  Ed van der Reek on Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:55 pm

I made a virtual,i hope you like it.
Gr Ed

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Post  Justin Hervey on Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:45 am

Outstanding Ed, what software do you use?

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Post  Ed van der Reek on Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:02 pm

Thanks Justin,i am using Photoshop CS6 Very Happy
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Post  savvas on Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:40 pm

Very nice Ed,very clear projection....thx : ThumbsUp ThumbsUp

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Post  savvas on Tue May 07, 2013 9:09 pm

These two fotos are two months ago....
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Post  savvas on Tue May 07, 2013 9:17 pm

And the rest is how the tree looks today.The branch on the left side developed well so i had to do some primary wiring and positioning
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I dont care about carving....I want your comments and advices on branch placement,and how to proceed next...Fire out guys,we dont have much help out here so your comments are very valuable...Thx a lot,Savvas.

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Post  PeacefulAres on Wed May 08, 2013 4:00 am

This may just be personal taste, but I feel like the base is just way too powerful for the trunk. There is a big imbalance there, in my opinion.

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Post  my nellie on Wed May 08, 2013 12:08 pm

PeacefulAres wrote:... ...There is a big imbalance there, in my opinion.
PeacefulAres, this is quite common and natural in the olive species. Thus, I believe this is not a real problem, the shape of the trunk looks absolutely natural to my eyes.
Savvas, I would suggest to put some more movement to the wired branches.

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Post  PeacefulAres on Wed May 08, 2013 1:32 pm

my nellie wrote:
PeacefulAres wrote:... ...There is a big imbalance there, in my opinion.
PeacefulAres, this is quite common and natural in the olive species. Thus, I believe this is not a real problem, the shape of the trunk looks absolutely natural to my eyes.
Savvas, I would suggest to put some more movement to the wired branches.

I don't live in an area where old olive trees are commonplace, so I can't really speak to that. Something about the tree's proportions just looks weird to me.

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