Octopus evolution 2012
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Poink88
marcus watts
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Sebastijan Sandev
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Octopus evolution 2012
My Carpinus orientalis code name "Octopus"...second full wire
whole story of this tree from 2009 here: http://sandevbonsai.blogspot.com/2012/03/evolution-octopus-2012.html
whole story of this tree from 2009 here: http://sandevbonsai.blogspot.com/2012/03/evolution-octopus-2012.html
Sebastijan Sandev- Member
Re: Octopus evolution 2012
Hi Sebastijan,
This tree has gone through some remarkable transformations over the years, thank you for sharing! Have you considered simplifying the line even further? Maybe something like this:
Or even this:
I realize that 2-D photos don't tell the full story and there may be a reason that you're keeping both sides. Part of the wild character of the tree may be in the design you've chosen (and the trunks you've removed). However, I keep seeing Dr. Doolittle's "pushmepullyou" when both sides are so evenly matched on on each side of the pot.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=pushmepullyou+&go=&qs=ns&form=QBIR
This tree has gone through some remarkable transformations over the years, thank you for sharing! Have you considered simplifying the line even further? Maybe something like this:
Or even this:
I realize that 2-D photos don't tell the full story and there may be a reason that you're keeping both sides. Part of the wild character of the tree may be in the design you've chosen (and the trunks you've removed). However, I keep seeing Dr. Doolittle's "pushmepullyou" when both sides are so evenly matched on on each side of the pot.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=pushmepullyou+&go=&qs=ns&form=QBIR
JMcCoy- Member
Re: Octopus evolution 2012
Hi,,
two really nice trunks but they dont complement each other as one tree (in a photo) - the left hand trunk is fantastic but for me personally the other trunk is too straight, and the way it leans away with the inner branches wired upwards gives an unstable feel - the tree, and eye, is pulled apart rather than drawn in to the design as it doesnt know if it goes left or right.
i think it is because the material divides too high up for a twin trunk - making it look like a Y or catapult. As an 'in leaf' tree the silloette will be fantastic , but for winter images the two trunks are unbalanced because they are too equal.
It may be a few years before you reduce one - but it is worth considering.
cheers Marcus
two really nice trunks but they dont complement each other as one tree (in a photo) - the left hand trunk is fantastic but for me personally the other trunk is too straight, and the way it leans away with the inner branches wired upwards gives an unstable feel - the tree, and eye, is pulled apart rather than drawn in to the design as it doesnt know if it goes left or right.
i think it is because the material divides too high up for a twin trunk - making it look like a Y or catapult. As an 'in leaf' tree the silloette will be fantastic , but for winter images the two trunks are unbalanced because they are too equal.
It may be a few years before you reduce one - but it is worth considering.
cheers Marcus
marcus watts- Member
Re: Octopus evolution 2012
Thank you guys for all ideas. I am considering lowering one trunk...the right one as tap pi lu showed for some time. But, as with all things, untill I'm not completely sure with my decision...I don't do anything. I just give myself some time...for the ideas to mature. I am aware of unbalanced sort of situation and I also notice trunks that are of similar hight.
Thanks.
All your ideas are valuble and interesting...thanks for virtuals
Thanks.
All your ideas are valuble and interesting...thanks for virtuals
Sebastijan Sandev- Member
Re: Octopus evolution 2012
I prefer the 1st virt of Joey removing the right branch entirely. Reducing it is also good but because of the very thick branch it still doesn't "flow" as nice for me. If you can reduce the height and girt of the right branch by carving, maybe that is the best solution.
Poink88- Member
Update May 2012
I have shortened right trunk for about 10cm. Also, in process of analyzing the tree with Walter Pall we have decided to tilt the tree to the right to visualy make rught trunk even shorter.
Here it is in leaf, right hand trunk is a bit short of leaves in the apical part due to hard pruning few weeks ago. It will fill up in a few days time.
More here: http://sandevbonsai.blogspot.com/2012/03/evolution-octopus-2012.html
Video here: http://sandevbonsai.blogspot.com/2012/05/video-11-international-bonsai-academy.html
Here it is in leaf, right hand trunk is a bit short of leaves in the apical part due to hard pruning few weeks ago. It will fill up in a few days time.
More here: http://sandevbonsai.blogspot.com/2012/03/evolution-octopus-2012.html
Video here: http://sandevbonsai.blogspot.com/2012/05/video-11-international-bonsai-academy.html
Sebastijan Sandev- Member
update 2012
Only my opion !!! I would keep both trunks,, without either trunk the tree is not balenced to me.. the way you have it looking with the tilt to the right at repotting looks very nice to me..great tree !! take care john
moyogijohn- Member
Re: Octopus evolution 2012
moyogijohn wrote:Only my opion !!! I would keep both trunks,, without either trunk the tree is not balenced to me.. the way you have it looking with the tilt to the right at repotting looks very nice to me..great tree !! take care john
I agree, plus: I think it will look much better when two tops join together & form only one top!
Sakaki- Member
Re: Octopus evolution 2012
Of course, that's the main goal nowSakaki wrote:moyogijohn wrote:Only my opion !!! I would keep both trunks,, without either trunk the tree is not balenced to me.. the way you have it looking with the tilt to the right at repotting looks very nice to me..great tree !! take care john
I agree, plus: I think it will look much better when two tops join together & form only one top!
Sebastijan Sandev- Member
Re: Octopus evolution 2012
I agree with JMcCoy Sebastijan. Specifically, the first image where the r. trunk is gone. The tree is much more dynamic and to me, doesn't look off balanced. Just my opinion of course ;-)
Fore- Member
Re: Octopus evolution 2012
i also think both trunks is the opinion for me to, but i mine opinion you have to make a choise on wich side you buils up the tree.
It's going in 2 different directions.
It's going in 2 different directions.
eric sanders- Member
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