Phempis acidula redesign
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moyogijohn
Rob Kempinski
Todd Ellis
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Phempis acidula redesign
Hi IBC.
Summer time is Phempis time.
One of the first victim my eyes spotted in my garden, I feel something is wrong with the direction this design is going,...Hiding too many ugly features inside that foliage mass.
I like this new angle and front better.
...we'll see where it goes from here.
regards,
jun
Summer time is Phempis time.
One of the first victim my eyes spotted in my garden, I feel something is wrong with the direction this design is going,...Hiding too many ugly features inside that foliage mass.
I like this new angle and front better.
...we'll see where it goes from here.
regards,
jun
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Now the difficult stage...
Ouch! Removing the hidden ugly truth...
After removing more branches and opening up for fresh air...
Now I can imagine this tree in some sort of cliff or near the sea. but I got to minimize the effect of the straight lower trunk with a minimal inverse taper, and the left side branch which is moving at the different direction.
regards,
jun
Ouch! Removing the hidden ugly truth...
After removing more branches and opening up for fresh air...
Now I can imagine this tree in some sort of cliff or near the sea. but I got to minimize the effect of the straight lower trunk with a minimal inverse taper, and the left side branch which is moving at the different direction.
regards,
jun
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Re: Phempis acidula redesign
Hi Jun,
It is hard to know how the trees "really" look with 2 dimensional photos. I liked the feeling/side of the first picture. The tree on the rock looks good. I like your work and always drool over your material.
Best,
Todd
It is hard to know how the trees "really" look with 2 dimensional photos. I liked the feeling/side of the first picture. The tree on the rock looks good. I like your work and always drool over your material.
Best,
Todd
Todd Ellis- Member
Re: Phempis acidula redesign
Did you make a semi-raft with the left hand branch on top of the rock?
Rob Kempinski- Member
phempis redesign
JUN,, OK Friend,, you have started !!!! It is looking good..take care john
moyogijohn- Member
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Rob Kempinski wrote:Did you make a semi-raft with the left hand branch on top of the rock?
yes Rob. I am going to make it like a shrub of "small Phempis" in that area.
This is how a real Phempis in the wild in some cliff looks like. I am wondering though, why people frequently makes cascade or semicascade when a tree mimics the real one along the cliff edge .
regards,
jun
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Nice work Jun, I wonder how it looks if you add some rocks to make the trunk base appear shorter?
Xuan
Xuan
xuan le- Member
Re: Phempis acidula redesign
jun wrote:Rob Kempinski wrote:Did you make a semi-raft with the left hand branch on top of the rock?
yes Rob. I am going to make it like a shrub of "small Phempis" in that area.
This is how a real Phempis in the wild in some cliff looks like. I am wondering though, why people frequently makes cascade or semicascade when a tree mimics the real one along the cliff edge .
regards,
jun
Very creative.
Rob Kempinski- Member
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Thanks Rob for the kind words!
regards,
jun
Thanks Xuan!
I will develop the tree further and see where it goes from there. Adding the rock now is like giving up on the tree...The rock anyway can always wait.
regards,
jun
regards,
jun
Thanks Xuan!
I will develop the tree further and see where it goes from there. Adding the rock now is like giving up on the tree...The rock anyway can always wait.
regards,
jun
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To be perfectly honest, I preferred the original photo of the tree. I'm not 100% sure why. I think I like the way the trunk looked all the way up and preferred that front. Now there seems to be significant reverse taper (it was always there obviously) that is now highlighted. I know that often to be able to progress we have to take a step backward to take additional steps forward in the future which I feel can be very true with respect to bonsai. Could I ask you to talk me through the thought process on these changes? To qualify my comments though I want to make sure that I am clear these are coming from a bonsai amateur for my own learning and understanding. I want to be very clear that I hold your work in very high regards Jun so that fact that I don't see this one from the get go tells me I am missing some of the rationale for making the changes and I would like to become better.
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On a different note, would it be possible to carve the tree more to fix the reverse taper since so much carving already took place in that area on the tree? I have no idea how plausible it would be to carve or reduce that area but I made a quick virtual of that section reduced further just to see the difference it would make:
Obviously my two cents are based purely on a 2D view of the tree...
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On a different note, would it be possible to carve the tree more to fix the reverse taper since so much carving already took place in that area on the tree? I have no idea how plausible it would be to carve or reduce that area but I made a quick virtual of that section reduced further just to see the difference it would make:
Obviously my two cents are based purely on a 2D view of the tree...
Jesse- Member
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nice Jun!!
if it is my tree, I will cut the branches on the left because it is not flow
if it is my tree, I will cut the branches on the left because it is not flow
pongsatorn.k- Member
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pongsatorn.k wrote:nice Jun!!
if it is my tree, I will cut the branches on the left because it is not flow
Thanks Pongsatorn!
I would like to respond to your idea of removing the branch........BUT I will ask Jim first if it is ok with him to write it down, because it will be an argument.
regards,
jun
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Hi Budi, Jesse and Pongsatorn.
Sorry for the late reply guys. I can't reply to the detailed questions a few days back because this whole composition is just part of the bigger one in the new thread.
Jesse,
Thanks for the PM. I am not giving too much attention to the details of the tree, for the same reason stated above. See the same tree in the new thread? Can you still see the inverse taper?
In penjing, the overall appearance of the whole composition is more important than the individual details of the trees. Good luck with your own penjing attempt.
regards,
jun
Sorry for the late reply guys. I can't reply to the detailed questions a few days back because this whole composition is just part of the bigger one in the new thread.
Jesse,
Thanks for the PM. I am not giving too much attention to the details of the tree, for the same reason stated above. See the same tree in the new thread? Can you still see the inverse taper?
In penjing, the overall appearance of the whole composition is more important than the individual details of the trees. Good luck with your own penjing attempt.
regards,
jun
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