FOREST OR GROUP PLANTING, SUGGESTIONS PLEASE.
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FOREST OR GROUP PLANTING, SUGGESTIONS PLEASE.
At first I remind you that I am considered a beginner (more or less)...
Then, I would like to ask your suggestions as to what kind of trees best fit for my project of attempting a group planting or even a forest. Mixed planting is my preferred choice!
I have been thinking about olives or quercus ilex or even privets. But you may have other more suitable suggestions which are all appreciated.
I would rather the trees to be fast growing, "tough" guys are also preferred so that they withstand ill-treatment
Thank you!
Then, I would like to ask your suggestions as to what kind of trees best fit for my project of attempting a group planting or even a forest. Mixed planting is my preferred choice!
I have been thinking about olives or quercus ilex or even privets. But you may have other more suitable suggestions which are all appreciated.
I would rather the trees to be fast growing, "tough" guys are also preferred so that they withstand ill-treatment
Thank you!
my nellie- Member
Re: FOREST OR GROUP PLANTING, SUGGESTIONS PLEASE.
Hi Alexandra.
Chinese elm, if it is your first to do group planting. They are forgiving,easy to find replacement just incase one of the trees die, leaves are small, easy to grow, and fast grower. If you wanted to have a mixed species, be sure they have a relavively same leaf size, bigger leaf tree at the front, smaller leaf trees at the back.
Regards,
jun
Chinese elm, if it is your first to do group planting. They are forgiving,easy to find replacement just incase one of the trees die, leaves are small, easy to grow, and fast grower. If you wanted to have a mixed species, be sure they have a relavively same leaf size, bigger leaf tree at the front, smaller leaf trees at the back.
Regards,
jun
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Re: FOREST OR GROUP PLANTING, SUGGESTIONS PLEASE.
Thank you, Jun!
I remember some "leftovers" of yours. The usual "S" type elms. And how you have managed to get something interesting out of them.
I remember some "leftovers" of yours. The usual "S" type elms. And how you have managed to get something interesting out of them.
my nellie- Member
Re: FOREST OR GROUP PLANTING, SUGGESTIONS PLEASE.
Mixed plantings are fun. Do a search here for N.C. Arboretum and you will find pictures of some of the large mixed plantings there.
You do sometimes have a problem with mixed plantings, though, in that trees of different kinds grow at different rates so it can sometimes be difficult to keep the planting in balance.
That said, Jun's suggestion of elms is a good one. You also might try a couple of different juniper -- perhaps one of the upright species growing with one of the prostrate forms. Junipers allow you to incorporate stones into the planting, too.
You do sometimes have a problem with mixed plantings, though, in that trees of different kinds grow at different rates so it can sometimes be difficult to keep the planting in balance.
That said, Jun's suggestion of elms is a good one. You also might try a couple of different juniper -- perhaps one of the upright species growing with one of the prostrate forms. Junipers allow you to incorporate stones into the planting, too.
JimLewis- Member
Re: FOREST OR GROUP PLANTING, SUGGESTIONS PLEASE.
I have been fairly successful with a group planting of Korean hornbeam. Once they are established, they are pretty tough. Starting with bare root seedlings, it takes 4-5 years for them to look like something.
Not for your situation, but for under lights in the winter, I strongly recommend Neea buxifolia.
Three species that did not work under my conditions, Chinese pistachio, sweet acacia, and Italian stone pine. I keep planting serissas in my saikei. When they survive, they are very artistic.
Whatever species you use for a group planting, always keep an extra one in a pot. You never know. You can train it as an individual bonsai in the meantime.
Iris
Not for your situation, but for under lights in the winter, I strongly recommend Neea buxifolia.
Three species that did not work under my conditions, Chinese pistachio, sweet acacia, and Italian stone pine. I keep planting serissas in my saikei. When they survive, they are very artistic.
Whatever species you use for a group planting, always keep an extra one in a pot. You never know. You can train it as an individual bonsai in the meantime.
Iris
bonsaisr- Member
Re: FOREST OR GROUP PLANTING, SUGGESTIONS PLEASE.
I've seen Boxwoods done as a forest and they were very nice, different but nice. I have an American Beech forest going now (don't try that at home) I'm working on a willow leaf ficus forest this year, Cool thing about them is they're tough trees, the roots will fuse and look really cool, and they clone out easy in the summer so you can make more and more additions to the forest as you may need them.
If you can find different seedlings of a specific tree rather than clones, the genetic difference will sometimes allow the autumn colors to vary from tree to tree in the same forest and I think that always looks awesome! Trident Maples make EXCELLENT forests! Seedlings are usually easy to find too. Beautiful in the fall as well.
I love Korean Hornbeams too Iris forest or not.
-jay
If you can find different seedlings of a specific tree rather than clones, the genetic difference will sometimes allow the autumn colors to vary from tree to tree in the same forest and I think that always looks awesome! Trident Maples make EXCELLENT forests! Seedlings are usually easy to find too. Beautiful in the fall as well.
I love Korean Hornbeams too Iris forest or not.
-jay
drgonzo- Member
Re: FOREST OR GROUP PLANTING, SUGGESTIONS PLEASE.
wait hold on.
Zone 9b? Maybee skip the Tridents, except maybe if you get some of those Taiwan tridents I've heard tell of
oh zone 9b that must be nice
Zone 9b? Maybee skip the Tridents, except maybe if you get some of those Taiwan tridents I've heard tell of
oh zone 9b that must be nice
drgonzo- Member
Re: FOREST OR GROUP PLANTING, SUGGESTIONS PLEASE.
Thank you all and each one of you!
@ Iris
That extra tree into a training pot just in case... I haven't thought of. Very clever! Thank you. I am going to use small potted nursery plants not bare root seedlings.
@ Jim
Yes, indeed that was the very thread that made me thinking over this project. And reading through the posts it was the first time that I have seen such a beautiful composition of trees and flowering bushes, I mean the one by A. Joura.
Most times I use the magic search button before asking...
@ Jay
I am fond of beeches. I have tried with an English beech (fagus sylvatica) prebonsai, but unfortunately she didn't make it during the second year although it was going seemingly well in the first year.
I have a japanese acer palmatum in training since last November. I have found a suitable place for her at my balkony, plenty of light no direct sunlight, protected from strong winds and it is doing fine. Next spring I will do her first pruning and styling.
Yes, zone 9b is fine and we also have a lot of mediterranean species excellent for bonsai
@ Iris
That extra tree into a training pot just in case... I haven't thought of. Very clever! Thank you. I am going to use small potted nursery plants not bare root seedlings.
@ Jim
Yes, indeed that was the very thread that made me thinking over this project. And reading through the posts it was the first time that I have seen such a beautiful composition of trees and flowering bushes, I mean the one by A. Joura.
Most times I use the magic search button before asking...
@ Jay
I am fond of beeches. I have tried with an English beech (fagus sylvatica) prebonsai, but unfortunately she didn't make it during the second year although it was going seemingly well in the first year.
I have a japanese acer palmatum in training since last November. I have found a suitable place for her at my balkony, plenty of light no direct sunlight, protected from strong winds and it is doing fine. Next spring I will do her first pruning and styling.
Yes, zone 9b is fine and we also have a lot of mediterranean species excellent for bonsai
my nellie- Member
Re: FOREST OR GROUP PLANTING, SUGGESTIONS PLEASE.
I live in a 9A-B zone. My tridents grow like weeds.
Libby
Libby
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