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Post  Joe Hatfield Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:14 am

It's been some time since I have had the time to focus some efforts on the forum. I have been pulling my hair out with work and family life. My trees are suffering as well as my inner peace. I have managed to maintain my trees but not make and huge strides this year so just taking pictures of this tree has given me a sense of accomplishment. Smile

Here's a Ficus I have been playing around with for a few years now. Successfully preformed an air layer last season after 2 seasons in preparation.
I had some leaving out issues and I am now currently working on getting buds in the right spots. I have done minimal wiring thus far and plan to do the wiring after I have figured out how to get the leaves to bud where I want them.

Comments, criticisms, advice very much so welcome.

How Horrid! The tree not our smiling mugs!
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Post  moyogijohn Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:33 pm

JOE,, A nice looking tree,,,, i like the trunk..when you find out how to get back budding,,,i need to know...thanks take care john

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Post  bonsaisr Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:52 pm

Sorry for your problems. Hope things resolve.
Although there is improvement, I have the feeling that the lower trunk & the canopy are not on the friendliest terms. I would consider a thread graft sticking out of that hip-like curve.
Also, I would put the tree in more sun & tighten up the foliage & ramification.
Would you consider a wider & shallower pot?
Moyogi:
I have found that outside of the tropics, at least under my conditions, Ficus do not back-bud that readily. To get one or two branches lower down, use thread grafting. To get a lot of branching lower down, you need to chop everything off in midsummer, perhaps even a trunk chop.
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Post  Ryan Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:05 pm

That is a tuber, right? As commonly seen with those ugly Ficus ginseng plants? If so, I have found that they do not backbud on the tubers. I still like what you've done though.

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Post  Jerry Meislik Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:23 pm

Nice progression with your tree. A huge improvement in its design.
I would suggest cutting back hard on all the branches to get back budding. Make sure the tree is healthy, and well fertilized before you do this.
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Post  JimLewis Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:07 pm

Jerry beat me to it. I'm pretty sure that if you cut those long, slender branches back quite a bit, you'd start getting more ramification. You will, of course, have to repeat it often. Eventually you may want to defoliate. I did one of my F. nerifolia this year and am very happy with the results.

I don't see a need for a branch lower down.

Does this grow outside in the spring and summer? All your pics are indoors.

Very nice job with one of these fat A***d kind of figs. They usually are gawdawful ugly.
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Post  Russell Coker Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:08 pm

Joe,

I don't know how successful you'll be at back budding until you cut it back hard and get it into a lot more light. If this tree were mine, where I live, I'd choose my branches, cut it back hard, plant it in a shallow pot, wire it and put it out into as much sun as I could find. I have no idea how much of that will work for you where you live, but the right pot and branch selection will be a big step in that direction.

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Post  Joe Hatfield Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:12 pm

Iris, I will do some reading on thread grafting on ficus and see where it leads me.
Good idea on the pot idea as well!

The "hack back" that has come up a couple times will be done after next season (if all goes well). I lost 50% of the foliage since the air layer and I am unsure as to if the tree can handle it yet.

The tree grows outside from about mid spring to very early fall. I keep a close eye on the temperatures. The tree gets a lot of sun. I'd say roughly 4 hours of nearly direct full sun after a morning of partial shade and a evening of shade. I worry about drying out the soil. I will increase the sun exposure and see what happens.

Ryan, This tree was bought at a semi local flower shop that had a sign that read, "BonZai clearance $3.00." When I asked the lady what the Latin name was she replied, " I don't speak Spanish."
cheers "Here's the 3 bucks thanks for your time."

I assume this could be one they call "Ginseng ficus" or "Tuber ficus". I haven't put much time in ID'ing it.

Thank you everyone for your time and consideration with this humble mess. I know it needs work but, I really have grown fond of this tree and I look forward to posting its progression.


-Joe

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Post  Rob Kempinski Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:45 am

It can be a nice informal upright with a bit of wire and some pruning. It looks like it could be F. microcarpa - the trunk looks fairly normal, most ficus trunks will swell a bit (like a tuber.)
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