Some azaleas in bloom

In Malaysia you can do Vireya, the tropical rhododendron. I think they actually grow in the wild where you live.

Some more are in bloom now, is it strange that the samll size Satsuki bloom first, then the medium size one have half of their flower buds open up and while the buds of the larger just show up their color?
Xuan





Here are the medium size

and the larger size

Hi Xuan Le,
Beautiful collection you show us there, thanks.
Regards, Sunip

Here are to more of my Satsuki are in bloom, the second one had an aluminum name tag on it but I lost the tag and forgot its name, if Russell or Galucus can help with the name it will be great.
Xuan

The white center one, if the flowers are in the 3.5 cm 1.35 inch range, it is also a 'Miyama Mangetsu'. If they are way bigger, then I am not so sure.

The other one looks like 'Hakurin'. The flower shape is uncommon and the major clue. But do those coloured flowers have white centers? Colour is also really taking over. You know that tissue with DNA for white flowers will mutate to be coloured but not the other way around?

I don't think 'Hakurin' is supposed to have white centers. But maybe you have a version of 'Hakurin' that does. It's possible. For 'Hakurin' the flowers should be a bit below 5 cm / 2 inches.

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Maybe it is 'Karin' with entirely white sports. Does it have white with coloured tips, 'tsumabeni'? 'Karin' also has 'tamafu' patterns. Like eggshaped white patches on each petal with or without a white center. Can't find good pictures of 'Karin'.

'Hakurin' and 'Karin' are related to 'Korin'. 'Korin' is a solid coloured azalea and parent of 'Karin'. Hakurin is a white sport of 'Korin' that then mutates the colour back on. So a third possibility is you have a 'Korin' that starts to sport white just as the plant did that gave rise to 'Hakurin. Don't know how probable that is.


Nice collection. I don't know about larger plants flowering later. If you mean larger flowering ones, that's something of a pattern in azalea though not a dominant one.

Glaucus wrote:In Malaysia you can do Vireya, the tropical rhododendron. I think they actually grow in the wild where you live.

I'd LOVE to see a Vireya rhododendron as a bonsai. Do you have any pictures??????

Glaucus wrote:The white center one, if the flowers are in the 3.5 cm 1.35 inch range, it is also a 'Miyama Mangetsu'. If they are way bigger, then I am not so sure.

The flowers (and leaves) look bigger than that to me, I think this is 'Seidai'.

The other looks like a bad flowered 'Sachi-no-hana'.

Thanks Glaucus and Russell, it should be a Seidi then because the flowers are about 2.5 inches.
One of the 2 larger is Asahi ni hikari may be the second one is the same since the flower buds and the leaves look the same

You lucky dog! 'Asahi-no-hikari' is one of my favorites.

Yes, it did look bigger than the other that does seem to be 'Miyama Mangetsu'. Now I don't know for sure if it is 'Seidai' or 'Shugetsu' or one of the other similar ones. It seems 'Shugetsu' is more purple and 'Seidai' more pink and 'Shugetsu' has a bit stronger yellowish blotch. If I had to guess, I would guess 'Shugetsu'.

Isn't the kenben of 'Sachi no Hana' too strong to be the one in the picture? Maybe a close up of the flower shape will help.
Also, do you think the colour is a true red or barely not because of too much purple? Can't be sure looking at a picture.


I saw someone with a vireya bonsai on an Australian bonsai forum:
http://www.ausbonsai.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=133&t=4258

They may not be long lived as evergreen azalea.

Glaucus wrote:Yes, it did look bigger than the other that does seem to be 'Miyama Mangetsu'. Now I don't know for sure if it is 'Seidai' or 'Shugetsu' or one of the other similar ones. It seems 'Shugetsu' is more purple and 'Seidai' more pink and 'Shugetsu' has a bit stronger yellowish blotch. If I had to guess, I would guess 'Shugetsu'.

Isn't the kenben of 'Sachi no Hana' too strong to be the one in the picture? Maybe a close up of the flower shape will help.
Also, do you think the colour is a true red or barely not because of too much purple? Can't be sure looking at a picture.


I saw someone with a vireya bonsai on an Australian bonsai forum:
http://www.ausbonsai.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=133&t=4258

They may not be long lived as evergreen azalea.

Here is the close up picture of the flowers
The color is rather pink redish than purple


and here is my Kakuo in training

Shugetsu... Glaucus, that's the one. I've been thinking 'shugetsu' and saying 'seidai'. Thanks!

Thanks for the Vireya info too!

It's hard to tell

'Shugetsu'
http://www.pbase.com/azaleasociety/image/86002531

'Seidai'
http://www.pbase.com/azaleasociety/image/86002457

I am not sure at all.

Most of my Azalaeas and Satsuki are in bloom now, here are some pictures I just took today

Beautiful!

In the fifth picture, did you buy the small red flowered one in the round cream colored pot as 'Kinsai'?

The last one is 'Kozan', the parent of 'Nikko' and MANY other popular satsuki.

Russell Coker wrote:Beautiful!

In the fifth picture, did you buy the small red flowered one in the round cream colored pot as 'Kinsai'?

The last one is 'Kozan', the parent of 'Nikko' and MANY other popular satsuki.

Thanks Russell for your compliment.
The samll tree in the round pot used to be a cutting (a gift from a bonsai club member) and I think it is a Kinsai but I am not so sure because the patals are not as samll as the ones of Kinsai variety.
The Kozan I bought from David Kreutz in 2009 at the PBA show in DC, here is the pictures when I bought it

Very nice work on the 'Kozan'! You have some beautiful satsuki.

The red one is actually 'Sango-sai'.

R

Russell Coker wrote:Very nice work on the 'Kozan'! You have some beautiful satsuki.

The red one is actually 'Sango-sai'.

R

Thanks for both the compliment and the info about the Sango-sai

woa, so much pretty! thks for your sharing!

I just took some more pictures of my Satsuki in full bloom, can't resist to share with those who like them
Xuan

And some close up pictures

Ok, I'll post some pictures of my cuttings. If they will ever be a bonsai, they will have a long long way to go.




'Hekisui'



'Miharu'

Don't mind the removed stamen.

You have some beautiful satsuki, Xuan!

Glaucus, is this 'Usugi-gyoten' or 'Hanazono'? I thinks it's 'Kaho' group, but what? That's not 'Eikan' group foliage, imo. You can see it side by side with Xuan's 'Asahi-no-hikari' in the Poland thread.

Your cuttings are really nice!

R

xuan le wrote:

Russell Coker wrote:You have some beautiful satsuki, Xuan!

Glaucus, is this 'Usugi-gyoten' or 'Hanazono'? I thinks it's 'Kaho' group, but what? That's not 'Eikan' group foliage, imo. You can see it side by side with Xuan's 'Asahi-no-hikari' in the Poland thread.

I don't know. It I never heard of 'Usugi-gyoten' before when you mentioned it earlier. I looked it up and 'Usiji Gyoten' is a sport of 'Kaho' similar to 'Gyoten', but paler. 'Hanazono' should have both red and purple, or at least the potential to do so.

The best guess so far is probably 'Hanazono', though. If needed I can post some 'Hanazono' pictures off a Japanese site to compare with.

I tried to find the pale lavender one with the finely shaped flowers. Unless it has darker purple shibori it doesn't seem to be in my dictionary.

Glaucus wrote: I tried to find the pale lavender one with the finely shaped flowers. Unless it has darker purple shibori it doesn't seem to be in my dictionary.

Are you talking about the one of Xuan's I called 'koromo-shikibu'? I think it's considered one of the "Southern Indian hybrids" (indica) popular here in the American South. Nurserymen lump it with the other indicas, right or wrong. Obviously, the name's Japanese, but as tsutsuji, not satsuki.

Yes, I'd like to see more pictures of 'hanazono'. I kind of think that's what it is.