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Post  casper Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:43 pm

hello your opinion on this tree
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Post  Guest Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:55 pm

Hi.
nice composition but,
presented without leaves, the small growth (tree) on the left side seems to be odd. the right one on the right side will work better with out the other small tree. Odd numbers doesn't always works.

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Post  NeilDellinger Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:02 pm

I see a great opportunity to airlayer the apex....and possibly a couple of other spots as well. But, overall it looks like its been defoliated quite a bit and not allowed to grow any lengthy, well ramified branches that would compliment the slender trunk line. The branches are too compact.

I wouldn't hesitate a moment in airlayering the apex if it were mine.


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Post  Guest Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:59 am

I agree with Neil, the tree looks like its been nibbled by sheep or deer. Those branches need some extension.


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Post  moyogijohn Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:33 am

Your tree is very nice,,it looks like you have worked with it a long time..i agree the little one on the left needs to go.that will not spoil the looks at all but will help in my opion...maybe let the smaller branches fill out some but not much..in leaf it looksgood.i don,t see many upright tridents..how long have you worked with this one,,if a may ask??? take care john

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Post  JimLewis Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:33 pm

Sorry. It rings no chimes with me.

I'd layer off both of the smaller trees, though, and have a couple of nice shohin/mame. <g>

Otherwise, it's too tall, too narrow for a maple (as I see maples, at least), and not much taper for the presumed size. Layering off the upper half (or even 2/3) might help, but then you'd have a real taper problem. That would make it (with the smaller trees) a landscape/penjing/saikei.
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Post  NeilDellinger Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:05 pm

Looking more at this tree....there are 3 subtle curves in the trunk line then it straightens out again. What I would do (thats always easy to say):
1) Is make 3 airlayers this year (the apex, and the 2 smaller trees). The smaller trees may be able to be seperated without layering depending upon the roots.

2) Airlayer the next section down from the apex. Theres a good start on a couple branches in there and some movement if you pick the right point to layer.

3) Save the base of the tree. Its got nice old bark and decent nebari...regrow a smaller tree.

Or....just keep it and enjoy it the way it is now..either way you're no worse off. Very Happy

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Post  casper Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:05 pm

hello I find that small the trees on the dimension make l' originality of this tree while crossing it would become a common tree I just will let push one can and release in the tète
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Post  Guest Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:38 pm

Looking back at these trees again, I think the format/design (penjing)with 3 trees would work if these are not broad leaf specie. just let the right side small tree grow to about half the size of the big tree and have a twin tree in the future.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

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Post  杰遨-jie Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:13 pm

Nice tree,however it would really sing to me if the bottom left branch was removed.maybe some better branch placement Very Happy
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Post  dorothy7774 Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:28 am

How about..?

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Post  Guest Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:50 am

dorothy7774 wrote:How about..?

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That's what I call amazing composition for penjing...Western style...very nice dorothy.
You asked before who is "Mochi Komi".....now, Mr. Mochi Komi will be very interested to have this composition, he loves matured forest too like the one in your virts.

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Post  casper Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:52 am

hello thank you for virtual the dorothy it is splendid and realizable on the left j' have two small it remains has to find to put on the right the virtual one
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Post  neyleite Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:33 am

dorothy7774 wrote:How about..?

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Hello Dorothy your projection was fantastic. My question is how Casper could put the 2 aditional trunks? Graftting with another plant?

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Post  NeilDellinger Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:42 pm

Dorothy's plan involved removing 1 or 2 branches. Why not take them by airlayer from this tree. This way your bark and leaf would stay consistent with the parent tree.

I think in a composition like she provided, this is an important detail to think of when you make your plan.

Happy new year. Very Happy

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Post  shimsuki Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:08 pm

Casper,
I would say take airlayers and do a trunk chop. The lack of taper is the reason for my choice. A good base developing too, which if you do a trunk chop and have success creating a new tree, it has a bright future.

I also like the virt a lot, I dont know how possible it could be though.


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Post  杰遨-jie Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:06 am

cool dorothy! your quite the lady when it comes to styling bonsai^^ i thought that was pretty cool........ Very Happy
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Post  Budi Sulistyo Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:29 am

Taking off the small tree on the left will make it better. The first right branch is also a bit too long. The foliage will meet with the small tree on the right. Reducing the length of the branch will reduce the conflict.

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Post  casper Sun Feb 27, 2011 4:12 pm

small evolution repotting and rising the branch of provisional left pot
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Post  casper Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:23 pm

here news of my acer j' have marcotter both branch and to insert one of both to repot in a pot of John pitt have an opinion
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