Noelanders 2009
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jgeanangel
Stone Monkey
Wolfgang Putz
landerloos
LLK
Walter Pall
Ed van der Reek
Jay Wilson
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Re: Noelanders 2009
Wow! Amazing ramification......I'll bet it looked even better in person.
I look forward to more photos. Thanks for sharing!
I look forward to more photos. Thanks for sharing!
Jay Wilson- Member
Re: Noelanders 2009
Hi Tony,congratulations with your fourth place at the Noelanders Award
Can I use your photo from the 1 place winner that you place here on the site for a web-album,my photo from this tree is not so good
I place the link on this site,when the album is ready.
Regards Ed
Can I use your photo from the 1 place winner that you place here on the site for a web-album,my photo from this tree is not so good
I place the link on this site,when the album is ready.
Regards Ed
Ed van der Reek- Member
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The Noelanders Trophy 2009 was very successful in my eyes. It by now is the second msot important event in Europe. Since the future of the Gingko Award is doubtful the Noelanders Trophy is an abolute must for the Eurpean elite to exhibit their trees. And it is a must for all serious bonsai enthusiasts to visit this convention. Besides the great exhiit there were ongoing demonstrations of which I only have a couple of images.
Dana Quattlebaum from Memphis, Tennessee, Salvadore Liporace and on the grand view on the left Kevin Willson form England/Spain.
Dana Quattlebaum from Memphis, Tennessee, Salvadore Liporace and on the grand view on the left Kevin Willson form England/Spain.
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Walter Pall- Member
Re: Noelanders 2009
Here glimpses of the exhibit. See almost all trees in my blog: http://walter-pall-travelogues.blogspot.com/
Walter Pall- Member
Noelanders 2009
Gee, it's great to see outstanding bonsai again on the IBC. Many thanks, Walter and Tony.
I recognise your Swan, Walter, that grew from an ugly duckling.
And isn't the last photo in Walter's post of "Today, 9.40 pm" your raft, Tony?
I can't remember - is Noelanders Trophy on every 2 years?
LLK
LLK- Member
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I wanted to thank all you guy's for a wonderfull time, especially Tony and Andy it was nice seeing you guys again.
Finally a decidious tree that won the trophy
Kind regards
Peter
Finally a decidious tree that won the trophy
Kind regards
Peter
landerloos- Member
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Seems to be you had a great show with fantastic trees, my buddies!!
I had to stay at home in Austria and was skiing.
I had to stay at home in Austria and was skiing.
Wolfgang Putz- Member
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LLK wrote:
And isn't the last photo in Walter's post of "Today, 9.40 pm" your raft, Tony?
I can't remember - is Noelanders Trophy on every 2 years?
LLK
Hi LLK yes its the raft and it was good for me as I was one of five nominations... (something that I value a great deal as the Quality of trees were amazing)
Noelanders is every year... and the fact is it's a CLUB show! with invitations to international artists.
Walter beat me to it putting up the photos... Thanks Walter... this takes time.
Walter is spot on... The Show has become VERY important and the quality of tree and exhibition is breathtaking.
The dinner was a great event and the 'Artist' group Photo became a riot. Can you identify everyone?
Guest- Guest
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What a weekend
A big thankyou to Tony for making it possible for me to go to Noelanders this year Great memories, great music and great journey
It was a fantastic event and is so worthwhile the trip, the trees were fantastic and the friendship was amazing. Looking forward to doing it all again next year.
All the best
Andy "Stone Monkey" Pearson
A big thankyou to Tony for making it possible for me to go to Noelanders this year Great memories, great music and great journey
It was a fantastic event and is so worthwhile the trip, the trees were fantastic and the friendship was amazing. Looking forward to doing it all again next year.
All the best
Andy "Stone Monkey" Pearson
Stone Monkey- Member
Spectacular Tree...display question?
This trident is indeed a spectacular tree. Thank you for sharing Tony.
I wonder though, about the manner in which it is displayed? If you look closely at the right hand lip of the container you can see that it is dirty. I also notice that, at least when the photo was made, the tree was not centered on the stand. I also noticed that the soil surface is not groomed as well as many trees when submitted for display.
For those of you who had the good fortune of being there, is this typical preparation for the trees on display in this show?
Thanks,
John
I wonder though, about the manner in which it is displayed? If you look closely at the right hand lip of the container you can see that it is dirty. I also notice that, at least when the photo was made, the tree was not centered on the stand. I also noticed that the soil surface is not groomed as well as many trees when submitted for display.
For those of you who had the good fortune of being there, is this typical preparation for the trees on display in this show?
Thanks,
John
jgeanangel- Member
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John,
the soil surface was OK but the edge to the roots could have been refined, I agree. The pot was not dirty but it is a very old pot which has patina. It is a general misconception that bonsai HAVE to be centered on the stand. This a matter of taste and not a rule. Some fundamentalist has stated this as a rule. Go to a museum where they exhibit sculptures and see whether they are all centered on their stand. They are definitely NOT.
the soil surface was OK but the edge to the roots could have been refined, I agree. The pot was not dirty but it is a very old pot which has patina. It is a general misconception that bonsai HAVE to be centered on the stand. This a matter of taste and not a rule. Some fundamentalist has stated this as a rule. Go to a museum where they exhibit sculptures and see whether they are all centered on their stand. They are definitely NOT.
Walter Pall- Member
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As one can see the original position on the stand was centered. Then the tree won the award and was placed on a separate table. The trophy went right next to it on the right. It is perfectly OK to then move the tree a bit to the left side on the table to offset the big optical weight of the trophy. If they had left the tree centered the overall composition would have had tooo much wieght on the right side. Or was it just a mistake? Anyway, in America everyone seems to believe in the 'centered' rule. In Europe it is a matter of taste.
Walter Pall- Member
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Seems to me that the placement of tree and pot on a stand should be "balanced" rather than slavishly centered. Walter's tree looks better to my eye with more table space on the leaning side than it did when centered on the table.
Here too, of course, there may be times when you want the off-balanced look, but not often, I think.
Here too, of course, there may be times when you want the off-balanced look, but not often, I think.
JimLewis- Member
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JimLewis wrote:Seems to me that the placement of tree and pot on a stand should be "balanced" rather than slavishly centered. Walter's tree looks better to my eye with more table space on the leaning side than it did when centered on the table.
Here too, of course, there may be times when you want the off-balanced look, but not often, I think.
The area given over to displaying the winning tree was quite small... you have a large (A3) Certificate, a trophy, and a smaller 'plaque' along with the tree and table. so... the fact that the tree was 'off center' on the table is irrelevant in this case. Having seen the tree 'for real' I can honestly say that I had not noticed that it was placed so.
BTW ...large (A3) Certificate... you can now get a sense of scale of the tree... its BIG
Guest- Guest
Thanks
Thanks for the reply Mr. Pal. It makes perfect sense as to why the tree was off center after the awards and such were placed and you provide perfect evidence that it was centered prior in its original placement. The container is beautiful without a doubt. When I visited the Taiken ten display in 2000, there were a few trees (not many) that lacked what I thought would be the appropriate preparation for the event (to the extent of weeds, dirty pots (not patina but mud), even stray dead leaves in the branches). Many were displayed without accessories of any sort but every single one that was on a formal stand was centered.
JimLewis wrote: "Seems to me that the placement of tree and pot on a stand should be "balanced" rather than slavishly centered. Walter's tree looks better to my eye with more table space on the leaning side than it did when centered on the table.
Here too, of course, there may be times when you want the off-balanced look, but not often, I think."
Hey Jim...your thoughts seem logical if perhaps the tree were displayed alone. As Walter mentioned it is certainly a matter of taste, I was specifically taught that in a formal/classical Japanese display with accessories that the tree should always be centered on the stand from a right and left perspective...centered from front to back is also desirable but not as necessary...as I said this from a classical Japanese perspective...I certainly recognize and appreciate others schools of thought.
Thanks,
John
JimLewis wrote: "Seems to me that the placement of tree and pot on a stand should be "balanced" rather than slavishly centered. Walter's tree looks better to my eye with more table space on the leaning side than it did when centered on the table.
Here too, of course, there may be times when you want the off-balanced look, but not often, I think."
Hey Jim...your thoughts seem logical if perhaps the tree were displayed alone. As Walter mentioned it is certainly a matter of taste, I was specifically taught that in a formal/classical Japanese display with accessories that the tree should always be centered on the stand from a right and left perspective...centered from front to back is also desirable but not as necessary...as I said this from a classical Japanese perspective...I certainly recognize and appreciate others schools of thought.
Thanks,
John
jgeanangel- Member
Re: Noelanders 2009
Thank you Walter, for showing the clearest picture of this fabulous root-over-rock....I've been struggling to see the rock and how it relates to the tree and now, your "daylight" photo finally reveals it's awesome proportions.
Norma
Norma
Norma- Member
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Ups i see now.
The white bark at the base of the trunk seems a birch.
My misstake.
Tks
The white bark at the base of the trunk seems a birch.
My misstake.
Tks
cjcosta- Member
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