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Post  mbolos Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:04 pm

I would love your opinion on the 2 possible designs or whether a third would better suit this tree. (Sorry, I don't know how to make proper virtuals, so I just use microsoft publisher.)

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Post  Guest Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:24 pm

the virtual is ok...at least you know what you want to do.

for the first illustration IMHO i think you would be needing extra branches from the mid section of the tree... it will be more of a chinese design, the second idea is more compact but you need to exposed lot of branches to come up with a tree like structure and not a shurb.
for the third design, your tree would fit well in the recently discussed in this forum-african design style(see some photos of the post). flat canopies, slim trunk with little taper and a good nebari.

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jun Smile

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Post  JimLewis Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:33 pm

Well, don't count your chickens before they've hatched. You haven't repotted this plant yet. I've tried Rosemary a good number of times, and it is repotting and root pruning that will do you in. They cannot stand having root work done. Period.

Never remove more than 10% of the roots at one time. Try to never remove a large root.

That said, Rosemary will look better in a columnar shape rather than a pointy-top shape.

Good luck.
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Post  Khaimraj Seepersad Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:02 pm

Try a pine shape, but get the trunk a bit thicker first'.
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Post  mbolos Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:23 pm

That said, Rosemary will look better in a columnar shape rather than a pointy-top shape. [/quote]

Jim, I've read quite a bit on rosemary and am definitely fearful of the first repot; I will not remove any roots. What do you mean by a "columnar" shape? What would that mean in regard to the foliage?

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Post  JimLewis Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:11 pm

Think of a candle flame in a very still room.
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Post  mbolos Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:08 pm

In case anyone was curious, this was the route I ultimately decided for the Rosemary. I figured this way, I would have a long, bushy branch for cooking! Clearly, there's much more development to be done in the future. I might repot it soon, which is a scary prospect given the species.

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Post  my nellie Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:44 pm

Any updates?
Did you repot your rosemary?
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Post  Andrew Legg Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:25 pm

Who said "you can't have your bonsai and eat it"??? Rolling Eyes

Look forward to seeing what came of this one as well. I think the choice of design was the best of those presented.

Cheers,

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Post  drgonzo Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:37 pm

The first tree I killed was a Rosemary.

I repotted a clone from that original tree earlier this spring, bare rooted it and trimmed 25% of the roots, stuck it in Turface. The Tree has been mad at me all season and only put on about an inch of new growth. This is in a big terra-cotta pot mind you..I'm not going to Bonsai it, Still he just sat and grew new roots all season! If I had ANY advice for someone wanting to work with rosemary it would be 'just always slip pot it up to the next size pot', forget about the roots-dont touch em. GOOD LUCK Twisted Evil
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Post  mbolos Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:20 pm

My rosemary unfortunately met its end this past winter. While I was back home for winter vacation, I had a friend take care of my plants for a few weeks and she forgot I had the tree in my bedroom. Trying to keep bonsai while still in school and flying from Philadelphia to Chicago every break has cost me a few trees over the years, such is life.

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Post  my nellie Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:53 pm

Mmmmm.... yes.... that's life, that's bonsai.
But you will go on with the rest of your trees and get yourself some new for replacement of those that met their end Smile
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Post  mbolos Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:10 pm

Haha, Ευχαριστώ φίλε.

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Post  my nellie Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:17 pm

Μη μου πεις!!! Shocked
Nice to meet you here, compatriot! Very Happy



PS: Philadelpheia? The original? Or... the descendant? Very Happy
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Post  mbolos Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:24 pm

My parents met in Tripoli. My father was born and raised in Nestani. I grew up in Chicago, which has a strong Greek community.

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Post  my nellie Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:37 pm

Everybody, excuse some more chat between two IBC members just introduced being from the same country... Thank you! Smile

mbolos wrote:... ...I grew up in Chicago, which has a strong Greek community.
Yes, I know. I have relatives there. In NY, too.
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Post  my nellie Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:50 am

Back on the rosemary now!
I will share with you what I have learned from some French co-bonsaists who cultivate "romarin".
- Repoting and the consequent minimal root pruning should never be done while the plant is in bloom. Because flowers emit some substance/hormone which promotes root growth.
- One should always have in front of one's eyes the final bonsai shape in order to wire/bend the branches while they are young. Once they begin to get some girth the wood is very brittle and nothing can be done to change the direction or placement.
- One should also keep a small amount of old soil in the core of rootball during the repoting procedure.


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