artificial yamadori - from seed - sadly partially failed
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artificial yamadori - from seed - sadly partially failed
Morning to All,
well there were all these comments on - how long a bonsai from seed would take - or it was not really practical to do so.
If you have one fukien tea in your yard, you will, because of birds have, soon have many more. I have three varieties of the fukien tea, and just by mowing get weird shapes and lots of material for hedging.
About, maybe eight years ago I planted a seedling in a selected spot, with good drainage, fukien teas don't like wet roots. It freely grew to about 14 feet and all I did was clean the base of stray shoots.
Eventually, a friend and I dug it out. I left it in a large plastic container to re-form the core, and for about 4 or 5 months [ double trunk ] it did well. However, for whatever reason the large trunk just died. So much for my dreams of a 5 inch of trunk bonsai -
I started over with the roots that were left in the ground, which naturally resprouted. I also added on one small leaf fukien tea to the area, as Mary Miller had told me years ago how easy it was for her to get 3 inch trunked shrubs.
We don't have, or I haven't discovered any finely leafed, twiggy shrubs or trees, so I make do with the ground or cut black 55 US gallon barrels. [ also blue ]
However, It has become fairly easy to raise large of trunk trees and shrubs.
Here is my first success/failure with Fukien tea large leaf.
Khaimraj
well there were all these comments on - how long a bonsai from seed would take - or it was not really practical to do so.
If you have one fukien tea in your yard, you will, because of birds have, soon have many more. I have three varieties of the fukien tea, and just by mowing get weird shapes and lots of material for hedging.
About, maybe eight years ago I planted a seedling in a selected spot, with good drainage, fukien teas don't like wet roots. It freely grew to about 14 feet and all I did was clean the base of stray shoots.
Eventually, a friend and I dug it out. I left it in a large plastic container to re-form the core, and for about 4 or 5 months [ double trunk ] it did well. However, for whatever reason the large trunk just died. So much for my dreams of a 5 inch of trunk bonsai -
I started over with the roots that were left in the ground, which naturally resprouted. I also added on one small leaf fukien tea to the area, as Mary Miller had told me years ago how easy it was for her to get 3 inch trunked shrubs.
We don't have, or I haven't discovered any finely leafed, twiggy shrubs or trees, so I make do with the ground or cut black 55 US gallon barrels. [ also blue ]
However, It has become fairly easy to raise large of trunk trees and shrubs.
Here is my first success/failure with Fukien tea large leaf.
Khaimraj
Khaimraj Seepersad- Member
Re: artificial yamadori - from seed - sadly partially failed
Here is a second attempt. This was grown to just about 8 feet tall and dug out because it was in my way when mowing.
Once again it is in a large growing pot to restart the core. Both images shown are just around a year old.
These trees are excellent for clip and grow and I use the stork's leg, expanding out in multiple v's since I prefer the idea of trees up close as opposed to the poodle clip for distance viewing.[ Hope that makes sense to the reader, if not just ask, happy to help.]
Second attempt - trunk is about 3 inches. Back of the tree showing the chop.
At later date I will show another variety of Ironwood, not local, but seen around the capital, grown for a large trunk.
With time I focus more on trunk movement, apologies for the straight trunked shrubs.
My excuse is it takes time to master a technique and like in oil painting training, you start of simple.
Once again it is in a large growing pot to restart the core. Both images shown are just around a year old.
These trees are excellent for clip and grow and I use the stork's leg, expanding out in multiple v's since I prefer the idea of trees up close as opposed to the poodle clip for distance viewing.[ Hope that makes sense to the reader, if not just ask, happy to help.]
Second attempt - trunk is about 3 inches. Back of the tree showing the chop.
At later date I will show another variety of Ironwood, not local, but seen around the capital, grown for a large trunk.
With time I focus more on trunk movement, apologies for the straight trunked shrubs.
My excuse is it takes time to master a technique and like in oil painting training, you start of simple.
Last edited by Khaimraj Seepersad on Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:26 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : really poor english, more akin to local dialect)
Khaimraj Seepersad- Member
Re: artificial yamadori - from seed - sadly partially failed
oops forgot this - the re-sprouted roots of the first effort.
I'll be cutting down these to try for more trunk movement.
The black barrel in the back is for holding the water for when I water. I still water by hand with a 2 gallon watering can.
As usual feel free to comment - yay or nay.
If you have little or no sensible material to collect ------ adapt
Just got another fustic, saved from a bulldozer, not sure if it will make it, fingers crossed.
I'll be cutting down these to try for more trunk movement.
The black barrel in the back is for holding the water for when I water. I still water by hand with a 2 gallon watering can.
As usual feel free to comment - yay or nay.
If you have little or no sensible material to collect ------ adapt
Just got another fustic, saved from a bulldozer, not sure if it will make it, fingers crossed.
Khaimraj Seepersad- Member
Fukien yamadori
Khaimraj,,, The tree in the second picture has got to be the biggest fukien tea I have ever seen!!! It looks like it will be a very nice tree done the way you say you do the pruning...Does the chops heal over good also??? I think you will have a good start with this one,the small flowers will be good also.. good luck and post it again when you do some pruning..good job john
moyogijohn- Member
Re: artificial yamadori - from seed - sadly partially failed
John,
I have a much older fukien tea, about 40 years old, 14 with me, field grown in China, but with a 2 inch or so trunk. Typical Chinese chopsai technique, the wounds have never healed, but then, I suspect this tree may have a poisonous sap as nothing has tried to eat it. I have never tried to treat the exposed wood either.
The cut and left on concrete tiles trunk, from the biggest tree, didn't rot either. I am hoping to use the left over wood for making chess pieces. I have a mini lathe, and I don't like to waste lumber of any kind.
As usual, from reading years ago, to expose wood that is normally durable to weather and insects [ teak for example ], the wood should be at least 25 to 50 years old.
Thanks for the interest.
Khaimraj
* Hee hee, John it has been pruned some 3 times a month since April, the branches should start to lose the straightness by next year and become gnarled.
I have a much older fukien tea, about 40 years old, 14 with me, field grown in China, but with a 2 inch or so trunk. Typical Chinese chopsai technique, the wounds have never healed, but then, I suspect this tree may have a poisonous sap as nothing has tried to eat it. I have never tried to treat the exposed wood either.
The cut and left on concrete tiles trunk, from the biggest tree, didn't rot either. I am hoping to use the left over wood for making chess pieces. I have a mini lathe, and I don't like to waste lumber of any kind.
As usual, from reading years ago, to expose wood that is normally durable to weather and insects [ teak for example ], the wood should be at least 25 to 50 years old.
Thanks for the interest.
Khaimraj
* Hee hee, John it has been pruned some 3 times a month since April, the branches should start to lose the straightness by next year and become gnarled.
Khaimraj Seepersad- Member
Fukien yamadori
Khaimraj,, It must be nice to have trees grow that fast!! What i was asking about was the chop site on the trunk healing over so you did not see a saw cut..i do kike the tree and would like to see it next year...good work john
moyogijohn- Member
Re: artificial yamadori - from seed - sadly partially failed
John,
you are looking at the back of the tree. So if as I suspect the wound does not heal, it would be at the back of the tree. However, this is just the first stage, to re-develop the roots around the trunk, and build the core.
Next year around January 2nd, when I begin to repot, I will see if the tree can be tilted for growing as an informal upright, and not a broom type shape. If the tree can make an informal upright, it will be replanted in a shallow but large container, two branches will be chosen and another cut will be done. One branch will be allowed to lengthen to 8 or 10 feet and the other for the vertical. If the wound does not heal, I will leave it as a decorative feature or if possible leave it at the back or other.
Will show the group as the training continues.
Stay Well.
Khaimraj
you are looking at the back of the tree. So if as I suspect the wound does not heal, it would be at the back of the tree. However, this is just the first stage, to re-develop the roots around the trunk, and build the core.
Next year around January 2nd, when I begin to repot, I will see if the tree can be tilted for growing as an informal upright, and not a broom type shape. If the tree can make an informal upright, it will be replanted in a shallow but large container, two branches will be chosen and another cut will be done. One branch will be allowed to lengthen to 8 or 10 feet and the other for the vertical. If the wound does not heal, I will leave it as a decorative feature or if possible leave it at the back or other.
Will show the group as the training continues.
Stay Well.
Khaimraj
Khaimraj Seepersad- Member
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