My stone collection ( aaapostol )
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My stone collection ( aaapostol )
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sea lion is one of my suiseki collection
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Another collection
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aaapostol_8368- Member
My suiseki collections in the phillipines
Congratulations for your success in posting your pics Bhoy.Please post your other stones, I know you have one of the finest stone collection in our area.
Cheers
Cheers
Ka Pabling- Member
My suiseki collections in the phillipines
Hi Chris,
Thanks for your tips, the table is made of kamagong,its a rare hardwood,its dark brown with white strips it was made purposely for this stone. It was designed by a fellow stone enthusiast (Jerome) who is also an artist. The daiza was made by my friend padychitan.
I will try to post my other stones soon
regards
Thanks for your tips, the table is made of kamagong,its a rare hardwood,its dark brown with white strips it was made purposely for this stone. It was designed by a fellow stone enthusiast (Jerome) who is also an artist. The daiza was made by my friend padychitan.
I will try to post my other stones soon
regards
aaapostol_8368- Member
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Hi Aaapostol... I combined your two threads for clarity & hope it meets your approval.
Thanks for sharing re' Padychitan's wood seating for your stone. He appears a generous & skilled friend to you as well as to the IBC forum.
Since your stones are not Japanese in-style, calling them suiseki creates difficulty internationally. Perhaps, all mounted stones in the Philippines are called suiseki regardless of their character. If so, perhaps stones that are "not in Japanese-style" as well as "in Japanese-style" should be called "Philippines' suiseki" (but NOT "suiseki"). That is a decision for collectors of stones in your country. Padychitan chooses stones of Phillippines origin but in Japanese-style to call "suiseki." He adopts considerable discipline of Japanese-style suiseki practice in his collecting & display; Padychitan questions folks around the world for using the word suiseki loosely in describing their stone practice. Stone appreciation rightly respects all traditions, but suiseki loses its meaning when applied too broadly in international stone appreciation discussion.
RE' your "shelter stone," it would not be a "shelter stone" (amayadori-- a "natural rock overhang that suggests a shelter in the landscape") in Japanese suiseki practice. For me, it is a much better stone representing Chinese scholar rock allusions-- hanging cliff, threshold (entrance gateway) into the land of immortals et al.. I would prefer a tall seat emphasizing the stone's height, mass & weight ("cloud head") above its less-massive foot.
Thanks for sharing information about the table crafted for your "shelter stone." I'm unfamiliar with you local wood so was pleased to find further explanation...
A modern collector of American stones who considers his taste Korean believes the the qi/chi "spirit/breath of the Universe" is more represented in a similarly streaked natural wood seat for a stone rather than the stone itself. Other suiseki friends recognize repeated early historic allusions to Chinese scholar rocks as the embodiment of landscape form compressed into miniature form with qi/chi. IBC's stone contributor Marco Favero notes that streaking in wood associated qi/chi appears alongside descriptions of Chinese feng shui. Does streaking in a kumagong wood table built for the stone have particular allusion for the table's craftsman or owner?
The breadboard supports for your stand suggest a choice in design based on function from which form follows. It is not aesthetically the best choice unless the crafting & balance are superb, but it has a ring of truth in design (especially when used with fine wood) that is respectful of the striving amateur which scholars (traditional literati) have claimed as ideal.
Thanks for sharing re' Padychitan's wood seating for your stone. He appears a generous & skilled friend to you as well as to the IBC forum.
Since your stones are not Japanese in-style, calling them suiseki creates difficulty internationally. Perhaps, all mounted stones in the Philippines are called suiseki regardless of their character. If so, perhaps stones that are "not in Japanese-style" as well as "in Japanese-style" should be called "Philippines' suiseki" (but NOT "suiseki"). That is a decision for collectors of stones in your country. Padychitan chooses stones of Phillippines origin but in Japanese-style to call "suiseki." He adopts considerable discipline of Japanese-style suiseki practice in his collecting & display; Padychitan questions folks around the world for using the word suiseki loosely in describing their stone practice. Stone appreciation rightly respects all traditions, but suiseki loses its meaning when applied too broadly in international stone appreciation discussion.
RE' your "shelter stone," it would not be a "shelter stone" (amayadori-- a "natural rock overhang that suggests a shelter in the landscape") in Japanese suiseki practice. For me, it is a much better stone representing Chinese scholar rock allusions-- hanging cliff, threshold (entrance gateway) into the land of immortals et al.. I would prefer a tall seat emphasizing the stone's height, mass & weight ("cloud head") above its less-massive foot.
Thanks for sharing information about the table crafted for your "shelter stone." I'm unfamiliar with you local wood so was pleased to find further explanation...
It looks similar to Madagascar ebony which is a very fine cabinet wood. Several suiseki enthusiast who share discussion privately have been considering the use of wood with distinctive light & dark streaks (irregular stripes) in wood seats. It is not recommended for modern Japanese-style suiseki stands because too gorgeous & distracting, yet tea enthusiasts have often chosen persimmon-wood (with similar streaking) for crafting wood utensils. The well-known Japanese collector of famous tea utensils Matsudiara Fumai is especially well-known for choosing persimmon-wood displaying streaks.Kamagong or "Mabolo" is a fruit tree found only in the Philippines, the wood of which is extremely dense and hard, and famous for its dark color. It belongs to the ebony family (genus Diospyros), and like many other very hard woods is sometimes called "iron wood" so called because its wood is iron-like and nearly unbreakable, hence the term "ironwood". The word Mabolo is Filipino for hairy and describes the fruit's hairy exterior. (Excerpt from Wikipedia searching "kumagong")
A modern collector of American stones who considers his taste Korean believes the the qi/chi "spirit/breath of the Universe" is more represented in a similarly streaked natural wood seat for a stone rather than the stone itself. Other suiseki friends recognize repeated early historic allusions to Chinese scholar rocks as the embodiment of landscape form compressed into miniature form with qi/chi. IBC's stone contributor Marco Favero notes that streaking in wood associated qi/chi appears alongside descriptions of Chinese feng shui. Does streaking in a kumagong wood table built for the stone have particular allusion for the table's craftsman or owner?
The breadboard supports for your stand suggest a choice in design based on function from which form follows. It is not aesthetically the best choice unless the crafting & balance are superb, but it has a ring of truth in design (especially when used with fine wood) that is respectful of the striving amateur which scholars (traditional literati) have claimed as ideal.
Chris Cochrane- Member
Re: My stone collection ( aaapostol )
Sir good day thanks for sharing my sea lion as an example of your explanation about sueseki its me... aaapostol / alfonso a. apostol tanay, rizal
aaapostol_8368- Member
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thankyou very much padychitan and cris to give more advice and support how to learn to post image in this forum and thanks to heven give some suggestion about my base in my stone
aaapostol_8368- Member
My suiseki collections in the phillipines
Hi aaapostol_8368 , Hi Chris , Hi frends.
I like your viewing stones , stones are hard to find in nature with good shape but their daiza no match.
Second , my idea is :
Made new Daizas : Sea lion sit on a Daiza – shape as low mountaine.
Cascade stone : put stone based on stone's height as romantic stone will increase value.
I see Rooster stone similar Goat stone with beard under chin.
I am not agree with Chris . Because Suiseki always is Suiseki , no Japanese in-style stone , no
"Philippines' suiseki" (but NOT "suiseki"), "Vietnam' suiseki" (but NOT "suiseki").... Difference with Suiseki is Viewing stone with some same requirement as no cut , no griding … with cattogories as : landscape stone ,object stone , picture stone ...and so there 's no << suiseki loses its meaning when applied too broadly in international stone appreciation discussion. >>.
Before <<bonsai and suiseki >> history hundreds years , viewing stone and art tree has been created in china and some other nations. .In past , about 500 years ago , Japanese receive viewing stone and art tree from China and develop it with private taste and become bonsai and Suiseki .
I like your viewing stones , stones are hard to find in nature with good shape but their daiza no match.
Second , my idea is :
Made new Daizas : Sea lion sit on a Daiza – shape as low mountaine.
Cascade stone : put stone based on stone's height as romantic stone will increase value.
I see Rooster stone similar Goat stone with beard under chin.
I am not agree with Chris . Because Suiseki always is Suiseki , no Japanese in-style stone , no
"Philippines' suiseki" (but NOT "suiseki"), "Vietnam' suiseki" (but NOT "suiseki").... Difference with Suiseki is Viewing stone with some same requirement as no cut , no griding … with cattogories as : landscape stone ,object stone , picture stone ...and so there 's no << suiseki loses its meaning when applied too broadly in international stone appreciation discussion. >>.
Before <<bonsai and suiseki >> history hundreds years , viewing stone and art tree has been created in china and some other nations. .In past , about 500 years ago , Japanese receive viewing stone and art tree from China and develop it with private taste and become bonsai and Suiseki .
ngoquangvu06- Member
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Good day ngoquangvu06 thanks for give me some idea about new daiza of my sea lion and cascade stone i'll try to create a new one... thanks
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My suiseki collections in the phillipines
Is it Stalactite ? - http://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%E1%BA%ADp_tin:Stalactite_%28PSF%29.svg
ngoquangvu06- Member
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This is not a coral... this stone called limestone came from the other side of water falls i can use it to bonsai
aaapostol_8368- Member
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Thank you for the explanation!aaapostol_8368 wrote:This is not a coral... this stone called limestone came from the other side of water falls i can use it to bonsai
But, what has happened to the post with the photo of the stone...???
I do not see it any more!
my nellie- Member
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Thanks peterbrod i can see the image of my rooster is like a camel too also...
aaapostol_8368- Member
My stone collection ( aaapostol )
Hi everyone,
I have been off the net for sometime due to lack of signal for internet in my area, I will try make up as soon as the signals gets better,
Here are some pics of stones given to me recently by my stone collecting partner Bhoy (aaapostol).
Here is one with a temporary dai.
Here is another one in a marble tray
I have been off the net for sometime due to lack of signal for internet in my area, I will try make up as soon as the signals gets better,
Here are some pics of stones given to me recently by my stone collecting partner Bhoy (aaapostol).
Here is one with a temporary dai.
Here is another one in a marble tray
Ka Pabling- Member
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My suiseki collections in the phillipines
Hi aaapostol_8368 , you repost the photo for full image.
ngoquangvu06- Member
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thanks friends but how can i do it? to full image in my post
aaapostol_8368- Member
My suiseki collections in the phillipines
Hi aaapostol_8368 , I like it , height near 1m . weight about 120kg , put on Daiza to stone bottom'height 0,7-0,8m. A viewing stone with many imagines and majestic in your sitting room.
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