QUERCUS ILEX CUTTINGS
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QUERCUS ILEX CUTTINGS
I would like to ask anyone who knows silviculture/geoponics whether vegetative propagation can be applied to Quercus Ilex (sub. ilex) or Holm Oak. And I mean is rooting of hardwood cuttings possible?
(this is a silly question I guess...)
I have read that Ilex crenata could be propagated by "almost ripe wood with a heel of hardwood in August".
Has anyone ever tried something like that?
Do you think that this can be similarly applied to Quercus ilex?
Thank you all!
(this is a silly question I guess...)
I have read that Ilex crenata could be propagated by "almost ripe wood with a heel of hardwood in August".
Has anyone ever tried something like that?
Do you think that this can be similarly applied to Quercus ilex?
Thank you all!
my nellie- Member
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YES! They root very easily. I have one that all the leaves fell off and I thought it dead as I cut a large sucker from parent tree w a hatchet and a pick and it lived tho all the leaves fell off. Its been 2 yrs now and its very vigorous. I'll post pick for u soon. I think they r indestructible
bezmar915neo- Member
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Thank you for your time to answer!
I appreciate your photos and I am anxious to look at them.
Will you please also give me some details about timing and the conditions (substrate, humidity, etc) that the cutting has been kept.
Thank you.
I appreciate your photos and I am anxious to look at them.
Will you please also give me some details about timing and the conditions (substrate, humidity, etc) that the cutting has been kept.
Thank you.
my nellie- Member
Re: QUERCUS ILEX CUTTINGS
How you seen the latest BCI magazine article on this variety, the tree is called the "Cobra" and the grower is Italian and article was originally in Italian.
Billy M. Rhodes- Member
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Apologies but mine are ilex vomitoria aka youpon I believe are the same.
Mark
Mark
bezmar915neo- Member
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Mark
Your plants are a Holly (Ilex); this discussion is about an Oak tree variety that seems to be found mostly in the Mediterranean area. It has a leaf that someone though looked like a holly leaf so it is called Holly Oak or Quercus (Oak) ilex (holly).
What you have is a native species of holly that the Native Americans used as a purgative (I think they used the berries, which are black when ripe.) Yaupon holly is a common name.
A popular cultivar of Ilex vomitoria is "Schillings" which has really small leaves, are all males and are always therefore grown from cuttings. A Mr. Schillings discovered the parent plant many years ago. (Holly plants are male or female, males don't get berries.)
Your plants are a Holly (Ilex); this discussion is about an Oak tree variety that seems to be found mostly in the Mediterranean area. It has a leaf that someone though looked like a holly leaf so it is called Holly Oak or Quercus (Oak) ilex (holly).
What you have is a native species of holly that the Native Americans used as a purgative (I think they used the berries, which are black when ripe.) Yaupon holly is a common name.
A popular cultivar of Ilex vomitoria is "Schillings" which has really small leaves, are all males and are always therefore grown from cuttings. A Mr. Schillings discovered the parent plant many years ago. (Holly plants are male or female, males don't get berries.)
Billy M. Rhodes- Member
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Yes my understanding is the native Americans used they berries to purge themselves hence the vomitoria. I was in the wrong forum. However youpons do propogate very easily. Sorry. Was is you who posted about grafting a male branch to a female to pollenate? That's a great idea. Does it work? And I read an article in bonsai today where the author ground layers one these oaks successfully.
mark
mark
bezmar915neo- Member
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The grafting idea was not me, what would be the point, unless you needed a purgative.
Billy M. Rhodes- Member
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Haha! Well the berries r quite attractive in fall without leaves
bezmar915neo- Member
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My Ilex vomitoria is evergreen and on the female the berries are black.
Billy M. Rhodes- Member
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I have also read about the "hardwood heal" being needed in a few tricky to root species, I 've tried a few tricks with Quercus myself and none have worked so I may try this one this year. Incidentaly I have read that Quercus can be air layered...If that helps.
Guest- Guest
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Very interesting all this info.
Thanks.
If I ever be to a quercus ilex woods in some place here I will try to dig up one or else I can anyway get one from a nursery, can't I?
Thanks.
If I ever be to a quercus ilex woods in some place here I will try to dig up one or else I can anyway get one from a nursery, can't I?
my nellie- Member
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Have you obtained your Quercus ilex finally?
I've got one since 1986 from digging, but my experience says that the better way for growing a Holm Oak it's directly planting its seeds. They grow quickly and very strong, and in only 2-3 years you can obtain one Holm thicker than a pen. Cuttings they don't work because the bark it's too much strong.
-Ireneu-
I've got one since 1986 from digging, but my experience says that the better way for growing a Holm Oak it's directly planting its seeds. They grow quickly and very strong, and in only 2-3 years you can obtain one Holm thicker than a pen. Cuttings they don't work because the bark it's too much strong.
-Ireneu-
Ireneu- Member
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Hello, Ireneu! Thanks for asking and for your suggestion.
No, not yet. You see the nursery trees I find are just like long poles, no low branching, no interest at all.
I wait until I can collect one
No, not yet. You see the nursery trees I find are just like long poles, no low branching, no interest at all.
I wait until I can collect one
my nellie- Member
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