Collecting season 2010

Henrik Stubelius wrote:
Hmm springs to mind that mine fields might be an issue to consider there as well...

Oh yes, in Bosnia situation is much more worse than in Croatia. Just look at the map.

Henrik Stubelius wrote:

Sebastijan Sandev wrote:Dear Henrik!
The prices that I wrote are for square meter. So, one square meter of apartement in Zagreb is cca 2000€. That means that for 50 m2 in center of Zagreb you have to pay 100 000€. Houses are cheaper. At least outside of center Zagreb. So you can find m2 for 1000 or 1200€. For a decent house you have to spend at least 100 000 up to 200 000€. The closer it is to the Center of town, the more expensive it is.
You got me wrong!

Thought so
A work mate of mine bought a piece of land for about 10 000E in bosnia last year, is bosnia cheaper?
Hmm springs to mind that mine fields might be an issue to consider there as well...

Oh yes Henrik...Bosnia is much cheaper

And of course, Maria is making a very good point...someone who doesn't know the Country can get in decent trouble..especially mines!!!

Well, a new one. Again.
This one was tiny.

Check whole story here: http://yamadoriarea.blogspot.com/2010/01/carpinus-orientalis-20104.html

back side (?)

Sebastijan

I see no fine roots, will that tree grow the way you chopped off all fine roots?

That is true. The job to collect this tree was very difficult and almost impossible. So, much of the root ball was destroyed. But, this is carpinus orientalis and, that is extremely adaptable and strong species. It produces roots from old stumps redily. One should not underestimate the shooting AND ROOTING power of old stump, especialy from carpinus family. This tree has some roots but not many. I am convinced that everything will be ok. I will keep you informed.
Of course, that will not be possible with some other types of trees that are very spoiled concerning root mass after transplantation. I have done like this before and was ok.

Of course, you need soil mix with extremely good and fast drainage and humid conditions. There are some other species that have the same surviving adaptability like carpinus family.
All this doesn't mean that it is not intention to collect as many roots as possible, but sometines like in this case, that was all that was possible to collect. I am 95% sure that the tree will grow without problems.

New one



http://sandevbonsai.blogspot.com/2010/02/carpinus-orientalis-20105.html

Thats incredible. What force of nature do you think kept them small?

Thanks for sharing these pics, and the links were fantastic. Some great yamadori. Watch out for orcs in those hills :-)

Regards

Ian

Transplanting field trees directly into bonsai pots was one of my favorites too but these pots are not the best for keeping proper soil conditions for new trees I have found. I have a new rule when I collect wild material, bonsai pot closet stays locked until all urges subside which may take weeks.

Q

Well, another one!



See more here:
http://sandevbonsai.blogspot.com/2010/02/new-material.html

http://yamadoriarea.blogspot.com/2010/02/carpinus-orientalis-20106-big-fish.html

Hope you like it

Hi Sebastijan!

Nice fishing over there, and good blogs!
You and your friends must have a massive collection by now,....... could you give us a glimpse?
I am and for sure now more of us are curious, do they survive?

For example i want to dig out a quercus robur, saw u did......... how are these managing?

Keep on hunting,.....!

grtzz from holland,....machiel!

Myrtle wrote:Thats incredible. What force of nature do you think kept them small?

Well, they are not so small after all. These are all trees and shrubs a few meters tall in nature.

Ian Young wrote:Thanks for sharing these pics, and the links were fantastic. Some great yamadori. Watch out for orcs in those hills :-)

Regards

Ian

Thanks Ian. I love the Orcs. Play cards with them all the time.

littleart-fx wrote:Hi Sebastijan!

Nice fishing over there, and good blogs!
You and your friends must have a massive collection by now,....... could you give us a glimpse?
I am and for sure now more of us are curious, do they survive?

For example i want to dig out a quercus robur, saw u did......... how are these managing?

Keep on hunting,.....!

grtzz from holland,....machiel!

Well, not all survive... 90% do.
Concerning quercuses...I do not like them. Very spoiled species. And fungal diseases adores them. My experience with quercuses is very limited.

Im amazed over the amount of interesting material you find. I just have a few questions.
How do you get your hands on big enough bonsai pots?
How long do you wait untill you start digging? With that, I mean what temperature..
You said here taht it was still quite cold some places, cant be good to take trees out if the ground is still frozen..?

Most of my trees are still in training pots. But usually, it is not so difficult to acquire a big bonsai pot. I only have to take some with me back to Zagreb when we are coming back from Walter Pall's Late summer meeting. Or I can tell Walter and he will bring to Zagreb whatever I need when he will be coming for a visit
He is very good to us and I thank him for that.
Usualy, we can start digging in january but at the seaside. That means traveling 200km in one direction and than back. In january at the coast, there is aproximately 0 to +10 degrees Celsius, but in Zagreb there are still minus temperatures, in february also. Up to -15. But, fortunately, all this trees are very hardy so they do not need special winter protection. I haven't experienced winter loss up to now. Inland, we can start digging in march.
And, I do not take trees out of the ground while it is still frozen...because that's impossible

Jaco Kriek wrote:Sebastijan

I see no fine roots, will that tree grow the way you chopped off all fine roots?

Do you remember our discussion about this tree:
http://yamadoriarea.blogspot.com/2010/01/carpinus-orientalis-20104.html
on the IBC is here: https://ibonsaiclub.forumotion.com/bonsai-f1/collecting-season-2010-t2150-15.htm#21104
???
Please, see some new photos here: http://sandevbonsai.blogspot.com/2010/04/prolific-budding.html

So, everything goes ok, as planed

There is nothing like seeing the new growth appear after collection. They seem to be budding strongly.
Worth all the back pain and having to dig in stoney ground
Keep us posted.

That is bonsai erotica !!! Congratulations Seb!

Thank you guys! I'm trying the best I can.

I promised to provide updates.

So, this was done in two years...from collecting up to now.

Next year, this tree will be in his first bonsai pot.

please see here: http://sandevbonsai.blogspot.com/2010/06/carpinus-orientalis-evolution.html

Hope you like the preliminary results

Again, the job done in two years...little orientalis first styling:

please see here: http://sandevbonsai.blogspot.com/2010/06/carpinus-orientalis-evolution-ii.html