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Post  jamb Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:17 am

Hi, any ideas for this prunus?
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Post  BobbyLane Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:43 pm

Ive no experience with this species, looks like interesting material though. i think there are too many branches and it all looks a bit untidy and congested in areas. think you need to select what branches you intend to keep and prune off leggy growth, crossing branches, branches that snake back etc, get some order into the congested bits. then let it grow out and cut back, rinse, repeat.
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Post  Gary Jones Thu Nov 24, 2016 9:26 pm

I agree. It looks like it needs a tidy up, a bit of weeding and a good pot and you'll have a lovely tree there.

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Post  John Quinn Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:33 pm

The basic form is already there and it shows great potential There have been numerous posts on the IBC regarding this species. Enter the species name in the Google search on the home page and you will get a few dozen results which may give you further ideas.

https://ibonsaiclub.forumotion.com/
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Post  yamasuri Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:30 am

Very strong. Need little refinement and all beauty is there
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Post  Jeffery Paul Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:10 am

This tree has unlimited possibilities, It's what dreams are made of....

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Post  Jeffery Paul Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:13 am

think multi trunk multi, multi trunk

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Post  Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:11 pm

my only idea is to have fun with this outstanding piece of material and throw convention out of the window !!!

embrace its wildness !!!
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Post  my nellie Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:10 pm

Nice material you have there!
Needs a good sort out as already suggested. Furthermore, I would consider some change to the potting angle.
And just like Kevin said, keep its wildness and naturalness at all costs!
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Post  jamb Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:05 am

I did a small project, what do you think.
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Post  Vlad Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:38 pm

Providing the white parts indicate possible sections of a dead wood then my first feeling would be: hey this guy really loves junipers...Smile

If the tree is mine then I would try to replace all those newly produced straight branches with new ones with more movement. Then I would try to create a kind of an "airy" look - just a few main branches with some ramification - similar to the structure of branches on a bunjin : ( the main trunks of the mahaleb show a lot of fights to survive in harsh conditions - the branches should reflect that strugle too ). IF the tree is mine. And luckily this is not the case pirat

You have acquired a really nice and I believe quite old yamadori. Looking forward to seeing its development.
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Post  jamb Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:59 am

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Post  jamb Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:00 am

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Post  Leo Schordje Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:52 pm

I like this tree, very much so.

I like the current potting angle, I would not change it. To my eye, especially the initial photo, looks like the original owner tried to depict a windswept tree, but did not follow through. I don't think this tree would benefit from being turned into a windswept tree.

I think as is it paints a lovely picture, but needs refinement.

Every branch, the straight sections should get shorter and shorter after each time the branch forks, or branches. Each level of ramification should be shorter extension than the previous. Many of your branches are long and straight after branching. You need to get in there and shorten them all up in late winter, or in spring right after it has bloomed.

After you have shortened branches, to get the segment lengths in scale, you can then go through and remove excess branches in areas that are too dense. I would do the shortening first, then select which to keep, because part of the crowded appearance is branches that are too long, which if you remedy that first, then it will seem more sparse. If you thin it out first, then select go back and shorten branches it may end up too bare in areas where you would want more foliage.

I really like it as is, you should be able to keep most of the branches that are there.

After you have done the shortening, and then the thinning, consider lowering the apex. There is a long straight section of trunk leading to the current apex. You might want to shorten that. But I would do the branch shortening and thinning first. Then contemplate the new image before making any further design changes.

Nice tree. I would love to have one like that on my bench.

I would keep it in larger than ideal pot, to encourage growth, until you get a few more levels of branch ramification, then consider a display pot. I would look for a dark blue or multicolored but dark glazed pot to set off the bright white of the flowers. If you plan to show it with fruit, a lighter colored glazed pot would be appropriate, as the fruit is very blue-purple. My inclination is to use a contrasting color rather than a matching color. But that is my taste.
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Post  my nellie Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:46 pm

Leo, I like very much the way that you approach any tree! The same you have done for me in the past. I really admire this kind of detailed response!
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