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Post  Vance Wood Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:40 pm

Here is the beginnings of the redesign process on what I call my Zombi Mugo.  It is the result of a tree that I thought was dead for at least two growing seasons.
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Post  LanceMac10 Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:40 pm

Good lookin' Mugo, Vance!!

Thanks for posting!!

Such dulcide tones!!study
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Post  Vance Wood Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:52 pm

LanceMac10 wrote:Good lookin' Mugo, Vance!!

Thanks for posting!!

Such dulcide tones!!study  

Thank You. I was not sure many on this site would be interested in this kind of stuff.
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Post  Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:44 pm

a timely post for me...
my local nursery has some very large mugos for $40 and i have been considering grabbing one...

any chance you have any more mugo videos out there ?
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Post  Vance Wood Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:02 pm

OK, here is kind of a telling of the cycle of obtaning a Mugo from a nursery that has them and what it takes to make the initial cuts and styling with aggressive efforts for next year in mind.


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Post  my nellie Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:20 pm

Thank you very much for posting!
Educative videos for beginners like me!
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Post  Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:24 pm

yeah vance... what alexandra said !

my favorite quote:
"... what do we eliminate...?
maybe the flawed human being playing around in it... that might help..."

thanks again and follow-up questions to follow, but right now i gotta scoot...

the sun is shining sunny
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Post  Vance Wood Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:00 pm

beer city snake wrote:a timely post for me...
my local nursery has some very large mugos for $40 and i have been considering grabbing one...

any chance you have any more mugo videos out there ?

More than you can stomach probably.

If you want them I'll post them.
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Post  Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:16 pm

Vance Wood wrote:
beer city snake wrote:a timely post for me...
my local nursery has some very large mugos for $40 and i have been considering grabbing one...

any chance you have any more mugo videos out there ?

More than you can stomach probably.

If you want them I'll post them.

well if you have any follow up films of the ones you have already posted, that would be super...
otherwise, perhaps any other ones you think would be helpful for some of us looking into mugos

couple of quick questions though

what time of year was the initial elimination work done ? (doesnt look like early spring or late fall)
and what do you think of that type of initial work at this time of year ? (we are in similar zones i believe)
i am guessing that you did not repot the posted trees until the following season, correct ?

and lastly (for now) in one film you mentioned having repotted zombi at the wrong time of year, but didnt mention what you believe to be the optimum time for repotting mugos...

sorry for all the questions, but a couple years ago i lost the one and only mugo i had, perhaps for the same reason you had thought you lost zombi... in other words, i could google my questions, but when it comes to mugos, why not ask "the man" ? Cool

thanks again !
kevin



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Post  my nellie Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:49 pm

beer city snake wrote:... ...and lastly (for now) in one film you mentioned having repotted zombi at the wrong time of year, but didnt mention what you believe to be the optimum time for repotting mugos...
sorry for all the questions, but a couple years ago i lost the one and only mugo i had, perhaps for the same reason you had thought you lost zombi... in other words, i could google my questions, but when it comes to mugos, why not ask "the man" ?  Cool
Kevin, I cannot believe you haven't known by now all about Vance Wood's mugos  Shocked
Father's day
doesn't this tell anything to you? Very Happy
I have had a long "discussion" some time ago with Mr. Wood at B-nut regarding my mugo.
Rest assured you will take all your answers in details Very Happy
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Post  Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:59 pm

well i did know that he is the man when it comes to mugos, but now that i am getting one i have begun to pay attention Wink

and thanks !
i missed the reference to fathers day
(so i guess i havent been paying that close attention Embarassed )
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Post  Vance Wood Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:25 am

beer city snake wrote:
Vance Wood wrote:
beer city snake wrote:a timely post for me...
my local nursery has some very large mugos for $40 and i have been considering grabbing one...

any chance you have any more mugo videos out there ?

More than you can stomach probably.

If you want them I'll post them.

well if you have any follow up films of the ones you have already posted, that would be super...
otherwise, perhaps any other ones you think would be helpful for some of us looking into mugos

couple of quick questions though

what time of year was the initial elimination work done ? (doesnt look like early spring or late fall)
and what do you think of that type of initial work at this time of year ? (we are in similar zones i believe)
i am guessing that you did not repot the posted trees until the following season, correct ?

and lastly (for now) in one film you mentioned having repotted zombi at the wrong time of year, but didnt mention what you believe to be the optimum time for repotting mugos...

sorry for all the questions, but a couple years ago i lost the one and only mugo i had, perhaps for the same reason you had thought you lost zombi... in other words, i could google my questions, but when it comes to mugos, why not ask "the man" ?  Cool

thanks again !
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Post  Vance Wood Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:28 am

Vance Wood wrote:
beer city snake wrote:
Vance Wood wrote:
beer city snake wrote:a timely post for me...
my local nursery has some very large mugos for $40 and i have been considering grabbing one...

any chance you have any more mugo videos out there ?

More than you can stomach probably.

If you want them I'll post them.

well if you have any follow up films of the ones you have already posted, that would be super...
otherwise, perhaps any other ones you think would be helpful for some of us looking into mugos

couple of quick questions though

what time of year was the initial elimination work done ? (doesnt look like early spring or late fall)
and what do you think of that type of initial work at this time of year ? (we are in similar zones i believe)
i am guessing that you did not repot the posted trees until the following season, correct ?

and lastly (for now) in one film you mentioned having repotted zombi at the wrong time of year, but didnt mention what you believe to be the optimum time for repotting mugos...

sorry for all the questions, but a couple years ago i lost the one and only mugo i had, perhaps for the same reason you had thought you lost zombi... in other words, i could google my questions, but when it comes to mugos, why not ask "the man" ?  Cool

thanks again !
kevin



In a nut shell:  with the exception of wiring and light pruning I don't really touch the roots on a Mugo much before the summer solstice.   I do all manner of things and get away with it after this time including major pruning, wiring and repotting---sometimes all at the same time.  

As to new videos I can do that if you really want to see more of them.



I started restyling this tree two years ago. I dug up the video documenting that process.
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Post  M. Frary Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:40 am

Vance Wood wrote:
LanceMac10 wrote:Good lookin' Mugo, Vance!!

Thanks for posting!!

Such dulcide tones!!study  

Thank You.  I was not sure many on this site would be interested in this kind of stuff.  
Maybe should start a train up here.

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Post  my nellie Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:05 pm

M. Frary wrote:
Vance Wood wrote:... ...Thank You.  I was not sure many on this site would be interested in this kind of stuff.  
     Maybe should start a train up here.
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Post  Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:15 pm

thanks vance - good to know that this is a good time of year for work.

videos are blocked here at work, so forgive me if this is mentioned in the last one you posted, but:
in your zone (maybe 4/5 i believe ?), do you winter yours outside or fully protected (garage, shed, etc) ?
i am guessing that due to their natural habitat, that they might do OK outside... ?
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Post  Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:03 pm

whoops !!!

i misread... summer solstice...

maybe now not such a good time to repot...

i got mine and will post pics after some minor clean up and minimal pruning

it came bare rooted though with no burlap or anything...
just a big root ball and dirt...
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Post  Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:04 pm

ditto what andrew said below x2


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Post  Andrew Legg Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:59 pm

Hi Vance,

We've had our differences on these forums before, but that aside I just wanted to compliment you on that last tree you posted the video of. I think it is absolutely lovely! A bit quirky and different, but a fine example of how these types of trees can be thoroughly refreshing. Cookie cutter bonsai be damned! Good job.

Cheers,

Andrew


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Post  Vance Wood Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:28 pm

Andrew Legg wrote:Hi Vance,

We've had our differences on these forums before, but that aside I just wanted to compliment you on that last tree you posted the video of. I think it is absolutely lovely! A bit quirky and different, but a fine example of how these types of trees can be thoroughly refreshing. Cookie cutter bonsai be damned! Good job.

Cheers,

Andrew


Thank You I appreciate your input and opinion, and respect your honesty. I hope you understand I don't hold grudges, I hope the same of you.
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Post  Vance Wood Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:36 pm

beer city snake wrote:whoops !!!

i misread... summer solstice...

maybe now not such a good time to repot...

i got mine and will post pics after some minor clean up and minimal pruning

it came bare rooted though with no burlap or anything...
just a big root ball and dirt...

If you have access to a pond basket or colander I would suggest putting the tree in one of those. It will help develop new roots all over the tree as opposed to in just a couple of places where the tree has taken off while leaving the rest languishing in the dirt. As to when to Pot. I don't start the potting process until after the summer Solstice and then I can and do, do it up until the beginning of November. If you had to do it at the wrong time you should be alright just keep the tree sheltered and don't let it get too wet. Even in a colander it is possible to over water. I live in zone 5-6 though we do get temperatures down into the sub zeros. Mugo is considered hardy to zone 4. I keep all of my Mugos and Scots on the ground grouped together and sheltered by mulch and sometimes shade cloth.
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Post  Andrew Legg Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:36 pm

Vance Wood wrote:
Thank You I appreciate your input and opinion, and respect your honesty.  I hope you understand I don't hold grudges, I hope the same of you.  

We're good Vance. Just don't steal my chocolate.

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Post  Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:48 pm

thanks vance... i ended up just cleaning out the duff, weeds, etc... along with the removal (leaving stubs) of a few branches that were obviously weak, dead or unnecessary... i then planted it in garden until next season. (i do not have a colander or pond basket big enough to accommodate it)
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