Training portulacaria afra
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Justin Hervey
Stphilbert
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Training portulacaria afra
can some one tell me how to promote branch division, I have cut the tip of the branches in the past thinking that it would help simulate latent bud on the remaining leaves but it didn't work, perhaps their is a special time when this needs to be done?
any help/guidance would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
C-
any help/guidance would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
C-
Stphilbert- Member
Re: Training portulacaria afra
Hi C
You should have no problem getting these to branch in the direction of your choosing as the new shoots will push out from the base of both opposite leaves when clipped back.
Factors that may be influencing negatively:
Your Zone - These grow in hot, dry areas. Fast draining soil and don't over water.
Design cuts should be done when the tree is growing strongly.
Cutting should leave a small nib ahead of the last pair of leaves, too close and you may damage the area where the new buds would have pushed out.
Good luck
You should have no problem getting these to branch in the direction of your choosing as the new shoots will push out from the base of both opposite leaves when clipped back.
Factors that may be influencing negatively:
Your Zone - These grow in hot, dry areas. Fast draining soil and don't over water.
Design cuts should be done when the tree is growing strongly.
Cutting should leave a small nib ahead of the last pair of leaves, too close and you may damage the area where the new buds would have pushed out.
Good luck
Justin Hervey- Member
Re: Training portulacaria afra
only thing i can add to justin's comments is in regards to your zone
i do very well with my spekboom (as they are known in their native afrikaans) and i live in wisconsin (zone 5),
so do not let that discourage you...
just do as justin suggests and try to simulate their natural environment (i.e lots of light and warmth)
i do very well with my spekboom (as they are known in their native afrikaans) and i live in wisconsin (zone 5),
so do not let that discourage you...
just do as justin suggests and try to simulate their natural environment (i.e lots of light and warmth)
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
Training portulacaria afra
Thank you both for your recommendations.
The plant is by a south facing window in my office it has been doing great in this location for several years.
it is taking well to wire training, the basic branch structure is established although it is missing a back branch at mid level, can one be grafted on? I was thinking an approach graft?
C-
The plant is by a south facing window in my office it has been doing great in this location for several years.
it is taking well to wire training, the basic branch structure is established although it is missing a back branch at mid level, can one be grafted on? I was thinking an approach graft?
C-
Stphilbert- Member
Re: Training portulacaria afra
i cant help with grafting on these as i never saw the need...
with these, i wouldnt worry too much about traditional styling rules (i.e 1st branch, 2nd branch, back branch, etc)...
unless that is what you are into...
i think these look better with the basic shape dictated by the silhouette and then try to control how it fills in from there
with these, i wouldnt worry too much about traditional styling rules (i.e 1st branch, 2nd branch, back branch, etc)...
unless that is what you are into...
i think these look better with the basic shape dictated by the silhouette and then try to control how it fills in from there
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
Re: Training portulacaria afra
My problem with the Elephant bush is if I cut past the leaves, new shoots are very unreliable.
Andre' in a p.m. said I shouldn't have a problem, but now I am faced with constantly expanding bonsai. Eek !!
HELP !!!
Laters.
Khaimraj
Andre' in a p.m. said I shouldn't have a problem, but now I am faced with constantly expanding bonsai. Eek !!
HELP !!!
Laters.
Khaimraj
Khaimraj Seepersad- Member
Re: Training portulacaria afra
yes it is difficult to maintain a small one... i have been working on this one for about a year and i have been fortunate.
a shot when i repotted this spring:
and a recent minor restyling
it is about 3-4" tall
i think that spekboom is one of those trees that will do what it does and we can make suggestions to it, but exerting our will upon it and expecting it to listen is pure luck and chance with limited predictability.
a shot when i repotted this spring:
and a recent minor restyling
it is about 3-4" tall
i think that spekboom is one of those trees that will do what it does and we can make suggestions to it, but exerting our will upon it and expecting it to listen is pure luck and chance with limited predictability.
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
Re: Training portulacaria afra
Kevin,
beautiful efforts !
I do wonder if you are going to have the same problem I am having.
Let me know what happens you try to keep them compact.
Laters.
Khaimraj
beautiful efforts !
I do wonder if you are going to have the same problem I am having.
Let me know what happens you try to keep them compact.
Laters.
Khaimraj
Khaimraj Seepersad- Member
Re: Training portulacaria afra
yes - i believe these will always sprout in twos rather than fours
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
Re: Training portulacaria afra
2 becomes a fork
4 would become a clumpy lump that would need to be reduced to 2 anyways...
4 would become a clumpy lump that would need to be reduced to 2 anyways...
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
Training portulacaria afra
I apologies, I am afraid I don't explain my self very well (English is not my first language)
It is becoming 2 leaves on opposite side of a single stem that continues to grow with intermittent leaves growing on either side.
I am asking the group if there is a special technic (time of the year etc..) that would let this single stem grow into two stems for ramification and pad development.
I know the late Jim Smith from Florida developed tremendous trees with luscious full pad, I would like to learn how to do that.
Thank you in advance for information on this subject.
C-
It is becoming 2 leaves on opposite side of a single stem that continues to grow with intermittent leaves growing on either side.
I am asking the group if there is a special technic (time of the year etc..) that would let this single stem grow into two stems for ramification and pad development.
I know the late Jim Smith from Florida developed tremendous trees with luscious full pad, I would like to learn how to do that.
Thank you in advance for information on this subject.
C-
Stphilbert- Member
Training portulacaria afra
Here are some bit of information I extracted from a text I fund written By Mister Robert J. Baran from Arizona.
“Removal of a large older leaf along an unbranched segment will stimulate a pair of new leaves to break at that node, and thus the start of branching from that point.”
“A knife cut made along the length of a stem across one or more nodes may result in a bud arising from one or more of those nodes at the site of the cut.”
I will test his recommendations and post the outcome.
C-
“Removal of a large older leaf along an unbranched segment will stimulate a pair of new leaves to break at that node, and thus the start of branching from that point.”
“A knife cut made along the length of a stem across one or more nodes may result in a bud arising from one or more of those nodes at the site of the cut.”
I will test his recommendations and post the outcome.
C-
Stphilbert- Member
Re: Training portulacaria afra
Stphilbert wrote:Here are some bit of information I extracted from a text I fund written By Mister Robert J. Baran from Arizona.
“Removal of a large older leaf along an unbranched segment will stimulate a pair of new leaves to break at that node, and thus the start of branching from that point.”
“A knife cut made along the length of a stem across one or more nodes may result in a bud arising from one or more of those nodes at the site of the cut.”
I will test his recommendations and post the outcome.
C-
Please do, that would be useful info indeed! Thx C!
Precarious- Member
Re: Training portulacaria afra
Khaimraj Seepersad wrote:My problem with the Elephant bush is if I cut past the leaves, new shoots are very unreliable.
Andre' in a p.m. said I shouldn't have a problem, but now I am faced with constantly expanding bonsai. Eek !!
HELP !!!
Laters.
Khaimraj
Huh?
Khaimraj my friend, the purpose of all plants is, ......... to expand...... like me and wisdom. hi hii i
Its you, that have to make the choice, of where the expansion must happen, not to end it. oooo that was deep.
Cut it back hard, like with the clip and grow method. They will always backbud, even on a stump.
Love and light
ps. hallo Kevin
Andre Beaurain- Member
Re: Training portulacaria afra
Andre Beaurain wrote:
ps. hallo Kevin
and howdy back to you my friend !
we miss your input both here and in the AAC !
i know you are busy and i hope all is going well with the new nursery etc...
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
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