My biggest Ficus benjamina
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Precarious
ogie
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My biggest Ficus benjamina
My biggest indoor tree. Forgive the skirt, I try to make better base for it.
After pruning. I left lots of growth to the lowest branch in hope to make it thicker than the second branch.
Hopefully will get some credibility to the base.
I would really, really love to hear your opinions of this one. No need to be too polite! Basic structure I have in mind is hopefully visible. It should be strongly growing to the left. Lowest branch on the right will also grow slightly to the left.
Last edited by JWT on Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:23 am; edited 1 time in total
JWT- Member
Re: My biggest Ficus benjamina
Hi JWT
Ficus are the most dimensional and versatile specie to work with.. Your overall design is quite good but IMHO your first branch on the left is equal level to your right branch,you will eventually have reverse tapering in a few years and it won't look nice..decide now or forever be trap and waste a lot of time and later cut it up ☺️ I try not to grow branches "if i can avoid it " in same level...
Regards
Alex
Ficus are the most dimensional and versatile specie to work with.. Your overall design is quite good but IMHO your first branch on the left is equal level to your right branch,you will eventually have reverse tapering in a few years and it won't look nice..decide now or forever be trap and waste a lot of time and later cut it up ☺️ I try not to grow branches "if i can avoid it " in same level...
Regards
Alex
ogie- Member
Re: My biggest Ficus benjamina
Thank you Alex. Will have to check for that, perhaps i could even correct that starting point somewhat. Not a usual possibility, but this branch comes from behind the tree and between the trunks. Could carve some wood away from the trunk and branch, and lift it a little.
JWT- Member
Re: My biggest Ficus benjamina
More views would help, but you could consider the lowest branch on the left a sacrifice, helping now to thicken the trunk. The next branch above it on the left could be brought down to replace the lowest branch. Am I guessing right that you are fusing the two trunks?
Precarious- Member
Re: My biggest Ficus benjamina
Eventually, yes, trunks should fuse. Sacrificing lowest branch has never occurred to me, not with this one. It would be very different tree. I will look into that.
That skirt thing works so well I have thought of doing it again right below lowest branch. Perhaps some visual taper could be achieved that way.
That skirt thing works so well I have thought of doing it again right below lowest branch. Perhaps some visual taper could be achieved that way.
JWT- Member
Re: My biggest Ficus benjamina
Yeap lowering a bit your right would do wonders.. I wasn't thinking wether your trunk has fuse already?? If not split it up again and bend it down a bit more before fusing back again.rather than carving it,as your plan for the second option. The roots...as early as now try placing it nicely not to cross each other so that when they thicken you'll have a nice spread all around...i know it will come out a nice tree..enjoy
ogie- Member
Re: My biggest Ficus benjamina
Update - I did as Ogie suggested, arranged the roots, and it was immediately better. Here we are today. Nice development in the root zone.
Before defoliation:
Next thing would be to wire it again, and to repot. Its literally coming out of the pot. And need to arrange those roots again. I think given a few years this will have much wider base.
Opinions?
Before defoliation:
Next thing would be to wire it again, and to repot. Its literally coming out of the pot. And need to arrange those roots again. I think given a few years this will have much wider base.
Opinions?
JWT- Member
Re: My biggest Ficus benjamina
Hi JWT, In my twenty plus years of working with bonsai the results I received from my ficus are memorable but only with the advice of an expert in ficus from Puerto Rico, Jose Luis Rodriguez. My willow leaf ficus was small and needed attention...the base roots crossed and some were far too large. Jose recommended work on the base roots first. The roots on your ficus are aerial roots with little hope of impact on the trunk. The next time you repot check out the surface roots and work on these!! He also suggested a potting mix of pure lava rock because of the soil in which most of the ficus grow and thrive on his Caribbean Island. I recently repotted my willow leaf which in five years in lava rock has grown a rootbase from filling a six inch oval pot to a 10 inch and today I repotted into a 13 inch oval.
It may be difficult to purchase lava rock but well worth the $$ and time spent finding it. I had to resort to an orchid dealer online....!!
Best regards,
Norma
It may be difficult to purchase lava rock but well worth the $$ and time spent finding it. I had to resort to an orchid dealer online....!!
Best regards,
Norma
Norma- Member
Re: My biggest Ficus benjamina
Thank you Norma, for your input. What I am trying to do is to make of a trunk of these aerial roots. Given time they will fuse. Before this approach I managed to get a decent small nebari there, but the trunk didn't have much taper. That nebari is now inside those roots.
My main substrate ingredient is moler clay, porous stuff. A little like lava rock but with much smaller pores. I have tested lava rock, but didn't find it any better at the time. Could test it again - at least it looks better than moler.
My main substrate ingredient is moler clay, porous stuff. A little like lava rock but with much smaller pores. I have tested lava rock, but didn't find it any better at the time. Could test it again - at least it looks better than moler.
JWT- Member
Re: My biggest Ficus benjamina
Looks like your doing great work! I agree with the repot, a little larger yes? Are you still keeping the roots covered? They still look tender for being exposed, I would worry about some drying up.
Precarious- Member
Re: My biggest Ficus benjamina
Yes I should find a decent pot. Oval, little wider, and shallower perhaps? Glazed, muted grayish / light browish perhaps?
I will keep roots covered for several years, I suppose. New roots are constanty emerging.
I will keep roots covered for several years, I suppose. New roots are constanty emerging.
JWT- Member
Re: My biggest Ficus benjamina
i have several ficus and i gotta say that i dig the direction you have taken and are following...
solid work
solid work
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
Re: My biggest Ficus benjamina
Since you ask, I like the current depth with this tree.
Precarious- Member
Re: My biggest Ficus benjamina
Just a quick question, I have always thought of Finland as a country with weather similar to that of Minnesota with it's long cold winters, is this true of Finland? My study group experimented with aerial roots but found they needed a warmer climate to succeed.
It will be interesting to follow your fusion experience. Please keep us posted on it 's status.
I wonder if the roots/trunk would grow and fuse if covered with soil in a deep pot? There would still be the issue of short growth cycles but if you used heated seedling pads with winter light set-up, there might be a chance.
It will be interesting to follow your fusion experience. Please keep us posted on it 's status.
I wonder if the roots/trunk would grow and fuse if covered with soil in a deep pot? There would still be the issue of short growth cycles but if you used heated seedling pads with winter light set-up, there might be a chance.
Norma- Member
Re: My biggest Ficus benjamina
I grow tropicals strictly indoors. I first noticed, that whenever I am on vacation, and trees are bagged, ficus always have several aerial roots when I come back. When trees are taken out of bag, aerials soon die.
Now I don't much care for aerial roots. Trees just don't grow like that up here . But I did want to have wider base and good taper. I first tried keeping trees in the bags for longer time, but that prodused aerials all over the tree and only by coincidence where I wanted them.
I want here roots to the base of the this ficus, lets say halfway up the tree. First pictures in the thread show how I did it. Under the plastic humidity is 100%, because of moisture evaporating from the soil. Rootbounding helps a lot, tree tries to grow new roots where it can, and if there is no space in soil, ficus will grow them in the trunk - if there is humidity.
Hope this makes sense.
Now I don't much care for aerial roots. Trees just don't grow like that up here . But I did want to have wider base and good taper. I first tried keeping trees in the bags for longer time, but that prodused aerials all over the tree and only by coincidence where I wanted them.
I want here roots to the base of the this ficus, lets say halfway up the tree. First pictures in the thread show how I did it. Under the plastic humidity is 100%, because of moisture evaporating from the soil. Rootbounding helps a lot, tree tries to grow new roots where it can, and if there is no space in soil, ficus will grow them in the trunk - if there is humidity.
Hope this makes sense.
JWT- Member
Re: My biggest Ficus benjamina
Beautiful! What exactly did you do with the base? Did you cover it in sphagnum moss? If so, how did you manage to remove all the moss and not break the roots? I love that idea.
Ryan- Member
Re: My biggest Ficus benjamina
No, nothing under the plastic, just moist air. So simple it hurts. Later I made a more air tight tent for the base, but thats all.
JWT- Member
Ficus update
Heading towards something slightly Chinese, I hope!
Bad picture, too yellow and all. From above a few weeks back:
I try not to make foliage clouds this time, and its a mess in a picture. One can really only see the structure when defoliated.
Base has developed nicely. I still have a tent there.
Bad picture, too yellow and all. From above a few weeks back:
I try not to make foliage clouds this time, and its a mess in a picture. One can really only see the structure when defoliated.
Base has developed nicely. I still have a tent there.
JWT- Member
Re: My biggest Ficus benjamina
michael hagedorn just did a post about some ficus in taiwan, but you may find it inspirational with yours...
(i too have a ficus with a low swooping branch)
https://crataegus.com/2017/11/16/thoughts-about-bonsai-in-taiwan/
(i too have a ficus with a low swooping branch)
https://crataegus.com/2017/11/16/thoughts-about-bonsai-in-taiwan/
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
Re: My biggest Ficus benjamina
Yes, that is inspirational! I kind of hope I had more twists in primary branches. Now is the time to make secondary branching, I wonder if I should make it zig-zag much more. Like much too much! It could look good in a few years time.
JWT- Member
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