Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm
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Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm
My new English Elm informal upright, Its been in this tub for three years after being collected. Going to pot it up in spring, its been heavily fed and the leaves are huge, they should reduce once it goes into a pot. any comments welcome..
IMG_2934 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr
IMG_2999 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr
IMG_2934 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr
IMG_2999 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr
Last edited by BobbyLane on Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:29 am; edited 3 times in total
BobbyLane- Member
Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm
Very nice tree.
I'd remove the lowest left branch (inside the curve branch) now if this is mine.
I'd remove the lowest left branch (inside the curve branch) now if this is mine.
Poink88- Member
Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm
That probably would be good as a back branch, Dario. It's nice to see something other than Chinese elm on occasion. When you repot, I think I'd put it a bit deeper. This could end up a stunning tree.
JimLewis- Member
Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm
Hi Bobbylane
I like your tree...I would do as Dario say, take out the branch in the curve, if it is the front you show us.
A English elm is a ulmus procera....a ulmus minor is a Ulmus carpinifolia.
the sice of the leaves tell me, it is a procera...or?
kind regards Yvonne
I like your tree...I would do as Dario say, take out the branch in the curve, if it is the front you show us.
A English elm is a ulmus procera....a ulmus minor is a Ulmus carpinifolia.
the sice of the leaves tell me, it is a procera...or?
kind regards Yvonne
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Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm
Hi and thanks folks, I appreciate the comments.
Im in agreement about the first left branch, not only is it inside the curve, its also bar branching with the first right branch...I considered Jim's suggestion of wiring it back, but it will still be in line with the first right branch, I'll wait until leaf drop to assess the structure better.
Yvonne, I also thought English Elm was Ulmus Procera, but the seller advised me that the Procera has smaller leaves than Minor...and I was reading a thread from another forum recently and someone said that Procera has now become minor, so im a little confused, then on Wiki it says that Minor is a field elm.
Ok the leaf on the left is from my Ulmus procera and the leaf in the middle is from what im told is Minor and the leaf on the far right is new growth from the said Minor. the massive leaf size in the middle is from what i was told a heavy feeding regime, note the new growth is much smaller.
ive also just noticed that my Procera leaf is more pointed than the other two..
My Ulmus procera
Im in agreement about the first left branch, not only is it inside the curve, its also bar branching with the first right branch...I considered Jim's suggestion of wiring it back, but it will still be in line with the first right branch, I'll wait until leaf drop to assess the structure better.
Yvonne, I also thought English Elm was Ulmus Procera, but the seller advised me that the Procera has smaller leaves than Minor...and I was reading a thread from another forum recently and someone said that Procera has now become minor, so im a little confused, then on Wiki it says that Minor is a field elm.
Ok the leaf on the left is from my Ulmus procera and the leaf in the middle is from what im told is Minor and the leaf on the far right is new growth from the said Minor. the massive leaf size in the middle is from what i was told a heavy feeding regime, note the new growth is much smaller.
ive also just noticed that my Procera leaf is more pointed than the other two..
My Ulmus procera
BobbyLane- Member
Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm
Did some research, my tree is in fact a field Elm/Ulmus minor
Last edited by BobbyLane on Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:39 am; edited 2 times in total
BobbyLane- Member
Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm
BobbyLane wrote:Did some research, my tree is in fact a field Elm/Ulmus minor
Seeing the last photo from your previus reply, I was just about to say the same...you was faster
Kind regards yvonne
Guest- Guest
Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm
Hi folks..
Here's a shot after leaf drop, light prune, minimal wiring and reduction of heavy, second left sided branch...
IMG_4172 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr
Here's a shot after leaf drop, light prune, minimal wiring and reduction of heavy, second left sided branch...
IMG_4172 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr
Last edited by BobbyLane on Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:30 am; edited 1 time in total
BobbyLane- Member
Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm
Very nice elm!BobbyLane wrote:Hi folks..
Here's a shot after leaf drop, light prune, minimal wiring and reduction of heavy, second left sided branch...
Zach
Zach Smith- Member
Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm
Thanks for the comments, the canopy will be developed over the coming seasons along with fine ramification throughout the tree...
BobbyLane- Member
Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm
Excellent tree! It already looks good and it should just keep on getting better.
Regards
Richard
Regards
Richard
Richard S- Member
Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm
Hi Richard, very nice looking elm, great movement, and very much like the uro. Have you chosen a pot yet for this? Would love to see what you are going to put it on.
JudyB- Member
Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm
Cheers Richard, Thanks Judy.....
I thinned out the canopy today and put some movement into the second left sided branch that is opposite another, its rising upwards now....
IMG_4776 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr
I thinned out the canopy today and put some movement into the second left sided branch that is opposite another, its rising upwards now....
IMG_4776 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr
Last edited by BobbyLane on Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:32 am; edited 1 time in total
BobbyLane- Member
Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm
I like everything about this tree. Nice job on the carving too. The pot is tops!
Todd Ellis- Member
Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm
Little update, this was repotted three weeks ago, still lots to do on this in terms of ramification, but the primary branching is set..
IMG_5700 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr
IMG_5700 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr
Last edited by BobbyLane on Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:33 am; edited 1 time in total
BobbyLane- Member
Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm
Looks great in that pot. Once it fills out it will be a stunning tree. Thanks for sharing.
steveb- Member
Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm
Very strong potential...nice trunk line fits nicely to pot. Thanks for sharing. Keep us update.
yamasuri- Member
Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm
Very nice tree, developing well. I like it a lot.
The pots great too!
One question though, do you see this as the final position for the tree in that pot? Obviously you'll have a vision for the future and only you know exactly how you envisage the branch/foliage development but as it stands I would have tried to place the tree further to the right.
Mind you, I'm no expert so that might just be me.
Great potential anyway.
Cheers
Richard
The pots great too!
One question though, do you see this as the final position for the tree in that pot? Obviously you'll have a vision for the future and only you know exactly how you envisage the branch/foliage development but as it stands I would have tried to place the tree further to the right.
Mind you, I'm no expert so that might just be me.
Great potential anyway.
Cheers
Richard
Richard S- Member
Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm
Richard S wrote:Very nice tree, developing well. I like it a lot.
One question though, do you see this as the final position for the tree in that pot? Obviously you'll have a vision for the future and only you know exactly how you envisage the branch/foliage development but as it stands I would have tried to place the tree further to the right.
I agree. The planting angle you had in the grow pot suited the tree better, in my opinion. As it is in the bonsai pot the trunk base is too straight and it give the impression of unbalance as it is heavier to the left. Tilting the tree to the right at the next repot would help it a lot.
Nonetheless, it is on its way to becoming a very nice tree. I like the pot very much.
Cory
misfit1- Member
Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm
Thanks for all the comments....This new angle just kind of grew on me and i think it looks more powerful from this view, the tree looks to have more taper with the first angle though, i like both angles and could maybe turn it again in the future, i even thought about a round pot for it. a couple others also said it looks a little unbalanced, but i planted it more left because the plan is to have the first right branch extend to the edge of the pot and the canopy will be much fuller and wider. i think it will appear more in balance then..
BobbyLane- Member
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but i planted it more left because the plan is to have the first right branch extend to the edge of the pot and the canopy will be much fuller and wider. i think it will appear more in balance then..
This was also in my mind that's why I didn't coment position of the tree in pot
yamasuri- Member
Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm
Hi folks, just a quick updated image of my Ulmus Campestre after wiring and some deadwood work done a few weeks ago
IMG_8157 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr
IMG_8180 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr
This one still has a lot of growing to do, will update again later in the year, Thanks
IMG_8157 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr
IMG_8180 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr
This one still has a lot of growing to do, will update again later in the year, Thanks
Last edited by BobbyLane on Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:37 am; edited 1 time in total
BobbyLane- Member
Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm
Nice tree Bobby!BobbyLane wrote:Hi folks, just a quick updated image of my Ulmus Campestre after wiring and some deadwood work done a few weeks ago
This one still has a lot of growing to do, will update again later in the year, Thanks
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