helping for style
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JimLewis
beheshtim64
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helping for style
hi friends
Im on the way of styling my tree and I confused which style is the best for theme.could you help on that?
here are my trees..
these tow are Privet Bonsai/Ligustrum
and this one is beech
thank you all
Im on the way of styling my tree and I confused which style is the best for theme.could you help on that?
here are my trees..
these tow are Privet Bonsai/Ligustrum
and this one is beech
thank you all
Last edited by beheshtim64 on Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:06 pm; edited 1 time in total
beheshtim64- Member
new pics
the height of the are about 20cm .
here it is another look of beech bonsai...I am so confused what to do with theme
here it is another look of beech bonsai...I am so confused what to do with theme
beheshtim64- Member
Re: helping for style
I dont know which side is the best for front view .. at left it has a huge wing that make it ugly ...shall I remove it?
and I think I should cut at top fot make it shorter..
and I think I should cut at top fot make it shorter..
beheshtim64- Member
Re: helping for style
Hi Beheshtim, great to see you here on IBC.
Uou need to understand that it is impossible for anyone to give you good styling advice on something that has little to offer, also in the future you need to photograph against a back ground that is even in colour so that members can see the structure of the tree.
regards
Tony
Uou need to understand that it is impossible for anyone to give you good styling advice on something that has little to offer, also in the future you need to photograph against a back ground that is even in colour so that members can see the structure of the tree.
regards
Tony
Guest- Guest
Re: helping for style
I'm a little confused (a common occurrence). There are several trees pictured here, right?
At any rate the second picture shows me a nice future informal upright tree. It, like the others, just needs to grow and to be pinched and pruned to improve branch growth.
And for beech, informal upright (or broom) is generally the way to go.
I suggest you find a good beginner's book on bonsai. Herb Gustafson's "Bonsai Workshop" is readily available to purchase on the Internet.
At any rate the second picture shows me a nice future informal upright tree. It, like the others, just needs to grow and to be pinched and pruned to improve branch growth.
And for beech, informal upright (or broom) is generally the way to go.
I suggest you find a good beginner's book on bonsai. Herb Gustafson's "Bonsai Workshop" is readily available to purchase on the Internet.
JimLewis- Member
Re: helping for style
thanks tony for your help.
I have posted all side of my tree (beech) to help me to cut some branches .because it is shaped badly .
I have posted all side of my tree (beech) to help me to cut some branches .because it is shaped badly .
beheshtim64- Member
Re: helping for style
thank you for your help jim lewis
yes 3 pictured are shown.
I guess the branches are too long for privet ...it makes me feel uncertain about cutting theme back.
for becch , it is very hard to make my mind to cut the top of main trunk and the branch is curved toward back.is it best thing I should do?
yes 3 pictured are shown.
I guess the branches are too long for privet ...it makes me feel uncertain about cutting theme back.
for becch , it is very hard to make my mind to cut the top of main trunk and the branch is curved toward back.is it best thing I should do?
beheshtim64- Member
Re: helping for style
I am a total newbie, so dont take me seriously. I am going to post what I think in the hope that I will be corrected.
The first tree reminds me so much of the pienaar style acacia.
Maybe you can try that?
The first tree reminds me so much of the pienaar style acacia.
Maybe you can try that?
Neli- Member
Re: helping for style
what you think for first tow photo?
are they look good in this style ?
are they look good in this style ?
beheshtim64- Member
Re: helping for style
I like the first style.
The second tree somehow does not look right to me. the left branch is too big. I would have chopped it and left that small branch under it on its place, and you are not supposed to have two brunches coming from the same place. Now look and the length and width of that big left branch. Try to draw it with tapper For it to have reall tapper it will have to be real long.
Again if you chop that branch you will loose the only movement you have on that tree. ( but remember I am a total newbie, so I can be talking crap)( I am just trying to be friendly )
What I would have done is chop both thick branches and it will remain with 3 branches. I am sure if You chop the remaining three to r internodes, you will get lots of back budding and from there You can create a broom style.
This is also nice:
Pienaar style is flat top like acacia in the field. It is SA style like this:
But you can do also this:
The second tree somehow does not look right to me. the left branch is too big. I would have chopped it and left that small branch under it on its place, and you are not supposed to have two brunches coming from the same place. Now look and the length and width of that big left branch. Try to draw it with tapper For it to have reall tapper it will have to be real long.
Again if you chop that branch you will loose the only movement you have on that tree. ( but remember I am a total newbie, so I can be talking crap)( I am just trying to be friendly )
What I would have done is chop both thick branches and it will remain with 3 branches. I am sure if You chop the remaining three to r internodes, you will get lots of back budding and from there You can create a broom style.
This is also nice:
Pienaar style is flat top like acacia in the field. It is SA style like this:
But you can do also this:
Neli- Member
Re: helping for style
thank you very much it really helps me.I have long way to go ...dwarf trees makes me wonderful.
beheshtim64- Member
Re: helping for style
I know what You mean! It is lots of fun!beheshtim64 wrote:thank you very much it really helps me.I have long way to go ...dwarf trees makes me wonderful.
Neli- Member
Re: helping for style
Hello welkom.beheshtim64 wrote:the height of the are about 20cm .
The direction of your hand could be a future front, but to be sure we have to see how the root base is.
The tree without the pot and the nerbari a bit cleaned could give more information.
Somewhere there must be a nice shohin hidden here, some branches should be removed.
Nice material to study with.
It is also good to look out for other interesting trees so you can play a bit, and get familiar with bonsai.
Sunip
sunip- Member
Re: helping for style
thank for all your comments.
here are another tree that I need your help:
It is Almond:
I dont konw which verity it is:
It is cotoneaster :
here are another tree that I need your help:
It is Almond:
I dont konw which verity it is:
It is cotoneaster :
beheshtim64- Member
Re: helping for style
Second one is BREYNIA DISTICHA I think???
You need to be careful with it...looks like it might be developing reverse tapper. Remove any branches that can cause that. You need to grow it...but it is not a plant that grows thick trunk.
You need to be careful with it...looks like it might be developing reverse tapper. Remove any branches that can cause that. You need to grow it...but it is not a plant that grows thick trunk.
Neli- Member
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Neli wrote:Second one is BREYNIA DISTICHA I think???
You need to be careful with it...looks like it might be developing reverse tapper. Remove any branches that can cause that. You need to grow it...but it is not a plant that grows thick trunk.
here is closer view . I guess their leaves are a bit different from BREYNIA DISTICHA
for the first photo ( Almond tree ) I have a big fear about dry out the soil because of small pot and growing big leaves.i have changed the pot in January . when is best time to star fertilizing the tree after root pruning and changing the pot?
beheshtim64- Member
Re: helping for style
Yes it is different...near by you can see it better.
Post your trees one by one...for help.
Post your trees one by one...for help.
Neli- Member
Re: helping for style
Hibeheshtim64 wrote:I dont know which side is the best for front view .. at left it has a huge wing that make it ugly ...shall I remove it?
and I think I should cut at top fot make it shorter..
Mostly you need to grow and develop your trees.
You know the species, start by searching Googles Images for "Species X bonsai", look at what is possible, what the best examples of bonsai of any given species, as well as trees similar to yours.
While you are doing all this research your plants has time to grow, and you have time to learn.
Neli - Pienaar or Pierneef?
GerhardGerber- Member
chines elm
what is your opinion on this chines elm? what should I do for this form?
beheshtim64- Member
Re: helping for style
Hi
Do a ground layer to get rid of those roots, otherwise nice little Elm
Do a ground layer to get rid of those roots, otherwise nice little Elm
GerhardGerber- Member
Re: helping for style
Gerhard,
Definitely Pierneef...He he he!
Behesh,
I see you cut off the branches of the cotoneaster very deep. I normally cut them a bit long, to keep the collar for future shoots. I am not sute if you will get buds there now and you need branches in those spots. Ones the branch is grown...I carve the remaining stump.
Define the pads on the elm and ground layer it.
Cut back shoots to 1-2-3, internodes, depending on the direction you want the branch to go to...On this one you are at ramification stage.
Definitely Pierneef...He he he!
Behesh,
I see you cut off the branches of the cotoneaster very deep. I normally cut them a bit long, to keep the collar for future shoots. I am not sute if you will get buds there now and you need branches in those spots. Ones the branch is grown...I carve the remaining stump.
Define the pads on the elm and ground layer it.
Cut back shoots to 1-2-3, internodes, depending on the direction you want the branch to go to...On this one you are at ramification stage.
Neli- Member
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