Internet Bonsai Club
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Bask suiseki

+3
stonener
sunip
Harria
7 posters

Page 1 of 2 1, 2  Next

Go down

Bask suiseki Empty Bask suiseki

Post  Harria Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:40 pm

Hello I am a new member which lives in pyrénnées in the Basque Country. I have the opportunity to have a karstic region near to me what allows me to provide myself palombino has very good account. My pleasure is to find a stone, wash it make and make a daiza to change my stone in suiseki.
Tomorrow I leave for my last Tanseki-Koo of the year i'll take some pictures and if it represent interest for anyone i will share them with a great pleasure.
Harria
Harria
Member


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty Re: Bask suiseki

Post  sunip Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:51 am

Hello Harria,

Please do post some pictures.
Give the eagles in the mountains my greetings.
How is your coast for finding interesting stones?
Regards, Sunip Wink

sunip
Member


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty Tanseki-koo

Post  stonener Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:06 pm

Welcome aboard Harria,
I too would be very interested,
and would consider it an act of kindness,
any details you could provide,
would also be great appreciated... Basketball

stonener
Member


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty back from my last 2012's tanseki-koo

Post  Harria Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:16 pm

Here i am on my sofa trying to explain you my last day:
I left at about 6:30 am towards my dear pyrénnées .
On the way we can cross formations stones which have the good structure, the good color but the shape of which remains too unrefined, stones are too massive, (you should not lose sight that stone has to keep as much as possible in a hand, has less to be exceptional):
Bask suiseki Dscn3023
The vein:
Bask suiseki Dscn3024
Some others isolated stones:
Bask suiseki Dscn3025
But I do not have to stay in this place, it is over there that I go:
Bask suiseki Dscn3026
Finally arrived, here is the style of slope which it is necessary to prospect:
Bask suiseki Dscn3027
It go left, I covered well myself because it makes rather freshly and especially with a great deal of wind:
Bask suiseki Dscn3028
I wanted to inspect these masses of fallen rocks:
Bask suiseki Dscn3029
Bask suiseki Dscn3033
Then I took back the road towards another place of collection, finally taken back the road not for a long time:
Bask suiseki Dscn3030
Bask suiseki Dscn3032
But I already arrive to my last slope of this year:
Bask suiseki Dscn3031
Bask suiseki Dscn3034
Well, I hope that you appreciated the narrative of my journey and I say to you goodbye to show you the final result.
Harria
Harria
Member


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty Re: Bask suiseki

Post  Guest Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:29 pm

Hi Harria

Nice to see your face, and photos of a awesome trip, stonesearching Smile ....
Look forward to see what you found.

Kind regards Yvonne

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty Re: Bask suiseki

Post  trantanhung_nt Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:42 am

Hello Harria ,
I noticed that the results of this trip is your natural landscape than the Suiseki stone (?)
I will always wait for you will find Suiseki stone in the next trip ...
Thanks for the great pictures from your trip .
sincerely ,
Hưng - Trần .

trantanhung_nt
Member


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty collect first result

Post  Harria Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:12 pm

hello everybody here are some of the stones I found last saturday
Bask suiseki Dscn3113
Bask suiseki Dscn3114
Bask suiseki Dscn3115
Bask suiseki Dscn3117
Bask suiseki Dscn3118
Bask suiseki Dscn3120Bask suiseki Dscn3121
Bask suiseki Dscn3122
Now I am waiting for your comments!!! I hope you will enjoy and I'll share the same stones after first rain water washed up. Hope read you soon!


Harria
Harria
Member


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty hard work, nice results!

Post  stonener Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:44 pm

Wow Harria You did good!... ThumbsUp
I have only collected in rivers, very dense, hard and heavy materials.
Only one place here of this kind, Murphy Stones in far off mountains,
Climbing is very difficult for me, and then hiking back even worse.
Only once and never again, almost didn't make it back, if not for my friend.
Sorry you had car trouble, always adds to the adventure, glad no bears.
Smart to use water only, never anything else on this type of porus material.
There all nice, but I especially like...
#2 Looking out over the "Grand Canyon"
#3 On my back looking up at the night sky "Star Gazer"
#4 Summer California Landscape "Oak Valley"
#5 Hawaiian Puffer Fish "sushi"
#8 Human Figure looking to the left "King Kameya mayea"
Great in a suiban because of holding surface moisture,
desirable suiseki quality?... Basketball


Last edited by stonener on Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:47 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : #)

stonener
Member


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty Re: Bask suiseki

Post  Guest Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:45 am

Hi Harria

All the stones has interesting shapes, I would like to take a closer look at...

Could the first stone be a minogame?...the 1000 year old japanese mythturtle.
How are you planning to clean it?...it looks like it has a layer of chalk.

The third stone is a problem to me, as it has a belt of white....this can not be confused with a waterfall, if it all the way arround the stone.
The fourth stone has a large newer chip in the front...the shape of the stone is nice, but the chip make it not good as a suiseki.
Again...all the stones are nice, and the stones you show us weat, would I like to see dry also.

Kind regards Yvonne

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty Re: Bask suiseki

Post  sunip Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:29 am

Hello Harria,
Thank you for posting a selection of your nice findings.
During wintertime you will have a lot of fun discovering all still hidden beauty, wile cleaning these stones from clay-lime.
Regards, Sunip Wink

sunip
Member


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty Re: Bask suiseki

Post  Harria Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:29 pm

hi everybody here are some of the stones I collected after the first watshed up with metalic manual brush and rain water: This time stones are not wet
Bask suiseki Dscn3123

Bask suiseki Dscn3124
other face
Bask suiseki Dscn3125
or other style
Bask suiseki Dscn3126

Bask suiseki Dscn3127

Bask suiseki Dscn3128

Bask suiseki Dscn3129
Bask suiseki Dscn3130
Bask suiseki Dscn3131

Bask suiseki Dscn3132
Bask suiseki Dscn3133
or standed up
Bask suiseki Dscn3134

and finally for today the one I called athualpa yupanki
Bask suiseki Dscn3135
Harria
Harria
Member


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty Re: Bask suiseki

Post  trantanhung_nt Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:00 am

Hello HARRIA ,
Congratulation for your good results .
I admired the trip of your search .
Regards ,
Hưng - Trần .

trantanhung_nt
Member


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty Re: Bask suiseki

Post  sunip Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:02 am

Hello Harria,
Very promising after the first steel brush.
Please show us the different stages of development you go with these stones.
I am curious what tools and technic you use and how far you go with the cleaning-development.
Is it your experience, when started the cleaning of a stone like this, you have to continue the cleaning process
because the clay-lime layer hardens over time again when exposed to the air?
Sunip Wink

sunip
Member


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty Re: Bask suiseki

Post  Harria Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:29 am

In fact each time I work on, I let them in water for one nigth before and when most of clay lime is gone I use steel wood workins only on wet stone.
Harria
Harria
Member


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty Re: Bask suiseki

Post  Guest Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:15 am

Hi Harria

Will the clay lime continue to come back?

Kind regards Yvonne

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty Re: Bask suiseki

Post  Harria Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:10 pm

No of course when I will have everything removed nothing will return, but by removing rubbing I spread it a little, so the work is slow with the steel wool. And nothing more for finish, NO OIL OR GLYCERINE OR ANYTHING else, but the Sébum of my fingers when I touch the suiseki.
Harria
Harria
Member


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty Re: Bask suiseki

Post  Guest Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:04 am

Many thanks Harria

Nice to have your answer....Maybe Sunip will explain what he ment about the clay limes return.....from were do you have this experience?? .....as it was new to me too.

Kind regards yvonne

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty Re: Bask suiseki

Post  sunip Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:18 am

Hello,

I was not talking about return of lime-clay.
When one brushes a lime surface underneath this surface the lime appears to be a bit softer.
Over time this new surface will harden to a new hard surface specially when it is watered, of course not overnight but let say a month.
(This is how these stones came into being, layer over layer)
That is why it is easier to continue the cleaning of this sort of limestones and not wait to long between the cleaning sessions.
This is a different case with other types of stone where between the rubbings-brushing sessions, a space of time is beneficial i feel.
The process of yoseki is a bit different here.
It is interesting Harria uses steel wool on limestone, i never tried that.
Problem with some of these sort of stones is when to stop recovering details,
because of the question; what belongs to the stone and what is only the last layer and the surrounding soil.
Anyway lovely finds to work with.
Sunip Wink

sunip
Member


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty Re: Bask suiseki

Post  Kev Bailey Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:22 am

I think that maybe Sunip is talking carboniferous limestone, which is very different to the hard Palombino type. This is the same as Ligurian stones which don't oxidise once they are cleaned. They are nearly always cleaned of the adhering clay layer using steel brushes or wire wool.
Kev Bailey
Kev Bailey
Admin


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty Re: Bask suiseki

Post  Harria Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:02 pm

I did not anderstand anything, but I think Kev you are right. The stones are very hard and dark blue green, it is not so hard with tjhis kind of stones to make the difference, but it takes a very long time to get out the final clay wich is nearly inside the stone incrusted in. So "patience est mère de réussite"(patience is a mother of success)
Do not hesitate to ask me your questions, I shall do my best to answer it even if I am far from being Master regarding suiseki. Thanks and hope to read you soon.
Wink
Harria
Harria
Member


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty Re: Bask suiseki

Post  dick benbow Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:53 pm

Thanks for taking us all along on your trip. Smile
dick benbow
dick benbow
Member


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty Re: Bask suiseki

Post  Harria Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:17 pm

The pleasure was to me sharing.
Harria
Harria
Member


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty Re: Bask suiseki

Post  Guest Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:30 pm

Hi Guys

Many thanks for all your explanations...I knew about Kev's....but more have now been added....Sunip what kind of stone are you talking about, and can you show a photo?

Kind regards Yvonne

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty Re: Bask suiseki

Post  sunip Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:50 pm

Hello,

I do not know carboniferous limestone of Great Britain.
Here a stone from Liguria (dark grey) where i found the described behaviour of oxidation as Kev explained.
I found the same wile sculpting with marble and albastre, one has to be careful once the surface layer is chiseled away,
underneath the surface the stone is a bit softer.
Cleaning those deep furrows is a real challenge.
Bask suiseki Img_2737
Regards, Sunip Wink

sunip
Member


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty Re: Bask suiseki

Post  Guest Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:11 pm

Many thanks for your answer Sunip

Nice stone.....

Kind regards yvonne

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Bask suiseki Empty Re: Bask suiseki

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Page 1 of 2 1, 2  Next

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum