My New Acquisition
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ShrekMG
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Hi!
In Spain there are different kinds of olives.
You have the regular one, which you use to produce olives, that grow slower and have bigger leaves and internodes. But it flowers better and you can enjoy the fruits.
You have also the "acebuche" which is the wild olive. It has smaller leaves and internodes. It grows faster and is very vigourous, but it's more dificult to fruitify.
Then, you have the "ulastre" which is the king of olives, im my opinion. It comes from Mallorca and I believe its a genetic variation of the wild olive that existes in those islands. It's main feature is the bark, which is extremely fissured. But you get also fantastic dead wood because of the extreme conditions that those plants grow. The best olives that combine movement, dead wood, great bark and small leaves ar definetly the "ullastres mallorquinos".
In Spain there are different kinds of olives.
You have the regular one, which you use to produce olives, that grow slower and have bigger leaves and internodes. But it flowers better and you can enjoy the fruits.
You have also the "acebuche" which is the wild olive. It has smaller leaves and internodes. It grows faster and is very vigourous, but it's more dificult to fruitify.
Then, you have the "ulastre" which is the king of olives, im my opinion. It comes from Mallorca and I believe its a genetic variation of the wild olive that existes in those islands. It's main feature is the bark, which is extremely fissured. But you get also fantastic dead wood because of the extreme conditions that those plants grow. The best olives that combine movement, dead wood, great bark and small leaves ar definetly the "ullastres mallorquinos".
Nunovsky_PT- Member
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Muchas gracias
Espero con ansiedad poder trabajarlo, cuando haya brotado con mas fuerza y definir las ramas
Saludos
(My really ropey Spanish is making this into something like: "I am really keen to get to work on this, once it has sent out more growth and branches can be defined." If that's grossly inaccurate could someone help us out. Fiona)
Espero con ansiedad poder trabajarlo, cuando haya brotado con mas fuerza y definir las ramas
Saludos
(My really ropey Spanish is making this into something like: "I am really keen to get to work on this, once it has sent out more growth and branches can be defined." If that's grossly inaccurate could someone help us out. Fiona)
magoca- Member
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Acebuche and ullastre are the same thing. Ullastre is the name they use in Mallorca. The only difference is the growing conditions. If you can read spanish, go to the following link: http://herbariovirtualbanyeres.blogspot.com/2010/05/olea-europaea-var-sylvestris-acebuche.html
jrodriguez- Member
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jrodriguez wrote:Acebuche and ullastre are the same thing. Ullastre is the name they use in Mallorca. The only difference is the growing conditions. If you can read spanish, go to the following link: http://herbariovirtualbanyeres.blogspot.com/2010/05/olea-europaea-var-sylvestris-acebuche.html
Hi! It was probably my mistake because someone had told me that there was a diference betwen acebuche and ullastre. That although the weather conditions and the growing medium shaped the ullastres, there was probably a genetic variation betwen the two of them due to the insularity of Mallorca that promoted the typical formation of the bark.
Nunovsky_PT- Member
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Nunovsky_PT wrote:jrodriguez wrote:Acebuche and ullastre are the same thing. Ullastre is the name they use in Mallorca. The only difference is the growing conditions. If you can read spanish, go to the following link: http://herbariovirtualbanyeres.blogspot.com/2010/05/olea-europaea-var-sylvestris-acebuche.html
Hi! It was probably my mistake because someone had told me that there was a diference betwen acebuche and ullastre. That although the weather conditions and the growing medium shaped the ullastres, there was probably a genetic variation betwen the two of them due to the insularity of Mallorca that promoted the typical formation of the bark.
Nunovsky,
The formation of the bark is due to climatological conditions. The same thin happens to Pemphis acidula. Those that grow away from the typhoon path, grow straight and have smoother bark, while those that grow in East Java, the Southern Phillipines and Kentinng (Taiwan) have crooked shapes and terrific bark.
Old, cultivated Acebuches/ullastres will develop the bark. I have one that is nursery grown and is probably over forty years in a bonsai pot. It has good bark, although not like the ones from Mallorca. I too have olives from Mallorca, with dead wood and nice cracked bark.
Regards,
Jose Luis
jrodriguez- Member
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Hello, in spanish the name is "acebuche", Ullastre is in catalan name, and the botanical name is olea europacea syvestrys. Sorry for my inglish.
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