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Coiled Shimpaku

Post  Orion on Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:10 pm

I wanted to share my shimpaku being trained in a coil style using dowels as tie-off points and curving the stock around them as opposed to wiring the trunk.

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The basic trunk shape has been set and now over the next year or so I need to focus on clearing off old bark, working on the deadwood features and thinning out the foliage. Also, it's in need of a re-wire.

Comments and criticisms are welcome.

Thanks for looking.

John

p.s. let's see if I can beat my old record of 893 to 0.

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Re: Coiled Shimpaku

Post  Sakaki on Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:01 pm

Hi Orion,

I think I will not allow you to beat your old record Very Happy Sorry!
I really liked that coil shape, and would like to watch your deadwood works.
Keep us posted.

Thank you
Taner

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Post  Orion on Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:40 pm

Sakaki wrote:Hi Orion,

I think I will not allow you to beat your old record Very Happy Sorry!
I really liked that coil shape, and would like to watch your deadwood works.
Keep us posted.

Thank you
Taner

I tried...

With thanks and we'll do.

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Post  Russell Coker on Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:26 pm

Hi John.

Im cuious to know how big it was and when you started, and how long it took yo get this far.

Also, when you "host an image'', are you copying the ''thumbnail'' instead of ''image''? Those tiny pics are a pain in the butt!

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Post  Orion on Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:43 pm

Hi Russell,

This is actually pretty small. Now, the trunk is a couple hairs over an inch and it stands under 7 inches; it started off at less than a quarter inch. It was planted in a 5-6 gallon terracotta pot with pumice and chopped sphagnum. Each of the bends set for at least a year. It's taken 4 years to get this far.

Sorry about the images, I hate it too. When I click on the images I have stored, they're large, so I don't know what I'm doing wrong. It bothers me to no end and I can't seem to figure out how to rectify it. Any ideas????

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Post  gtuthill on Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:52 pm

Have got any pictures or links to the method you describe?
How big was the trunk to start off with?
I want to give this a go.
Cheers!
Greg

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Post  Orion on Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:25 pm

No pics of the process, never had a reason to chronicle the method, but let me describe it this way:

Use a thin whip, less than a quarter inch. This way I got by not using rafia.

You can either plant the stock in the ground, or use a large container. If you use a large container, you can suspend the stock very easily. Run a wire attached to the container up the drainage hole and carefully spiral the wire around the stock; it will hold itself suspended in mid air and it wont move.

Fill in your medium. I use pumice and chopped sphagnum moss.

Take two thin dowels and glue one of the ends to the bottom of the container so it's perpendicular. Take the other dowel and set that to the bottom at an angle so that it butts against the first one.

Make the first bend around one of the dowels. Then tie it off with a strip of cloth or ball twine (carefully, just to hold it in place).

The second bend is the made around the second dowel and tied off as well.

Don't do too much at one time; 2 bends at most are plenty I think. Let them set over a year. You can work on the branches in the meantime.

The guys who are really good at this, from what I understand, solely use wire and plant the stock in the ground; I don't know if they would use stakes, or need to. Then what they'll do is after the trunk is wired, they'll scrunch the seedling down and that'll give a lot of girth almost right off the bat. Those fat ones you see with the twisted trunks take several years in the ground.

Please let me know if this helps at all.

John

p.s. one other thing. I've found it best to wait until early to late winter before making serious twists and bends; don't do it when the sap is really flowing.



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Re: Coiled Shimpaku

Post  JimLewis on Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:12 pm

Russell Coker wrote:Hi John.



Also, when you "host an image'', are you copying the ''thumbnail'' instead of ''image''? Those tiny pics are a pain in the butt!

R


Just click on it.

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Post  Orion on Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:48 pm

I know that the pics. are enlarged by clicking on them, but how do you get large pics in your posts so that you don't have to click on a smaller one??

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Post  JimLewis on Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:50 pm

Orion wrote:I know that the pics. are enlarged by clicking on them, but how do you get large pics in your posts so that you don't have to click on a smaller one??

Go here: http://ibonsaiclub.forumotion.com/t243-tutorial-on-posting-pics

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Re: Coiled Shimpaku

Post  Orion on Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:53 pm

Thanks loads Jim

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Post  Orion on Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:03 pm

Test pic.



Thanks again Jim, worked like a charm

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Re: Coiled Shimpaku

Post  Rob C on Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:02 pm

I love this little tree... I love shohin junipers and this one has amazing potential. Outstanding tree in training!

Rob

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Post  Orion on Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:35 pm

Thanks loads Rob, always good to hear from you. Let me know how you think it's progressing.

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Post  fiona on Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:26 am

I've gone back in and sorted out your original post. Glad you've got it to work too.

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Post  Orion on Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:49 am

Thanks Fiona,

Computer stuff makes me feel like an educated idiot.

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Post  Sakaki on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:32 am

Orion, you can also call it "Horn Shimpaku" Smile

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