Suggestions for old, large ficus (with pics)

I am a relative newcomer to bonsai, and recently acquired this old, large, and sadly, very neglected ficus. The tree is badly pot-bound, to the point where I don't see how I can remove the tree without smashing the pot.

I defoliated the tree--perhaps this was a mistake given its unhealthy state--but the majority of its leaves were blistered by the gall wasp.

The branches are all wire-scarred, and some show evidence of wire that was never removed, and is now embedded deep within the branches. It even be the case that all the branches have wire embedded, though some branches exhibit considerably less damage than others.

Obviously the first order of business is restoring the tree to health. But I would be very appreciative of any suggestions as to how to proceed with this tree once this has been achieved.

Specifically, would you remove all the branches, or just those in which the scarring is particularly egregious? If some of the larger branches are kept, would you remove the aerials?

Ultimately I will take the tree to more experienced hands to see what can be done, but I am nonetheless very curious to hear any opinons about the potential of this tree.









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It would be a pity to smash that pot. Try to cut vertically down through the roots on the edge of the pot with a sharp knife and lift the tree out of the pot.

Dos and don'ts. First this is a beautiful ficus. Cut tree roots and save pot. I would remove 4-6 aerial roots to bring trunk into scale. I would snip a few branches. Probably root-bound so new soil and fertilizer will be like new again. Good luck!

__gary

Since it appears the heavy roots extend right to (and continuing under) the rim of the pot, I'm not sure it would be possible to sever these with a knife. Perhaps a branch saw might work. As sad as it would make *me* to lose such a container, I'm not sure there's much choice but to break it. Without knowing where the bulk of the roots are actually attached, or what things look like as the heavy roots transition from above the surface to under that rim (where you might be able to create a smooth transition using some careful root shaping on the top), were it mine, I'd break the container to see what I've actually got to work with. The container is decidedly nice, but is ultimately replaceable, whereas the tree is a unique entity and not a commodity production piece.

Good luck with it!
-d

I only see three roots that would be left alone at pot rim, the rest I would sever off. Save the pot! This is a ficus....they love surgery.

__gary

I too would break the pot.

I know that ficus can take a lot of root abuse, but I'd hate to damage any of the existing aerial roots. It obviously too a LONG time to create them, and it is a wonderful tree. A pot is (just) a pot.

Do you know what kind of Ficus this is?

I assume, from the palms and the outdoor settinig, that you are from a warm climate somewhere. You might consider revising your profile to let us know where you're from.

please soak the plant in a container of water i.e in a bucket for 15 to 20 min..ficus are strong plants and would not get damaged by it.then invert the pot and give the container a push upside down.please use two people to do this.i hope it would work.do not cut any roots and do more damage to the plant.this method would save the pot and the plant.after taking out the plant put it in sand to compensate for the damage to the branches.....

gm.it.seacom wrote:please soak the plant in a container of water i.e in a bucket for 15 to 20 min..ficus are strong plants and would not get damaged by it.then invert the pot and give the container a push upside down.please use two people to do this.i hope it would work.do not cut any roots and do more damage to the plant.this method would save the pot and the plant.after taking out the plant put it in sand to compensate for the damage to the branches.....

May I ask what the water soak is going to do?

__gary

I'm with Gary on questioning the water soak. If anything, this will cause the roots to become turgid and therefore harder to remove. Perhaps the idea is to soften the soil? If so, there's far more roots than soil with anything this potbound.

Kindest~
-d

Here is a ficus root I severed oh....6 weeks ago just to give you an idea of the plant's response to such things. Conditions are perfect for such activity at this time.

I'm fairly sure the ability of ficus to generate roots isn't much in question here. I think what it's come down to is without knowing what's under the rim of the container, there's a risk of cutting off or damaging something that should probably be saved. Even if that container were $100, we're talking about trading easily 3+ *years* worth of time for such a comparatively small amount of money.

It's not even a guarantee after cutting the roots. If there are heavy roots heading down from within the inner diameter of the rim, but wrapping around the outside of the pot's belly, there's going to be no great way of cutting them when they're against the bottom of the container, leading to ripping and tearing of roots. Granted this is a "what if" scenario, but being so potbound, it's not an unreasonable possibility. What would be ultimately bad is if the pot were to crack (let's face it, it has some major pressure on it right now from the massively rootbound condition!) after all the work had been done and now there's no container and the nebari is damaged.

While ficus put out roots like nobody's business, building a good nebari takes a significant time. Risking damage to it in exchange for a production container just doesn't seem like a long-term gain to me. I'm assuming a production Chinese container here of course. The container *is* nice, but it's not the valuable portion of the show. If it's an antique, hand-built container worth thousands of $$$, then we might be having a different discussion.

Kindest~
-d

Maybe we can tie a rope around the trunk and hang it from a tree and let the force of gravity drop the pot off, you know like they do conch shells when they are pulling the animal out. ooh

__gary

Would there be any benefit to washing the soil from around the roots so you can see just what is going on in there?

being so potbound, I can't imagine there's much soil to be washed off. Since the container is a fixed volume X and roots (Y) grow into soil (Z) then Y + Z + a little air = X .. soil breaks down and washes out (or is pushed out) and roots fill the space occupied by air and soil, becoming potbound. The longer they're bound, the worse it becomes until the demise of the tree (some trees can deal with this better than others). By looking at the heavy roots and seeing how they behave around the container's rim, it's clear this is highly potbound .. lots of Y, very little Z and just a little air. .. ergo, not much soil to wash off.

Kindest~
-d

status quo
X= 100%
Y= 94%
Z=.06%

Add H2O
Y= 96% swelling from H2O +(.02%)
Z=.04% small amount of soil washed away -(.02%)
which brings us back to X= 100%

__gary