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re: doban shapes?

Post  an'ya on Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:10 am

Hi, I am new to this forum. Can anyone tell me if a bronze doban may be a round shape? Thank you, an'ya

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Re: re: doban shapes?

Post  Chris Cochrane on Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:46 am

Hi An'ya.... The round suiban used for stones in Japan are typically paired at a moderately close fit (sand surrounding, but not extending far) to vertically mounted landscape-view stones (e.g. a mountain waterfall) with a near-round base. The famed historic suiseki Suenomatsuyama "Eternal Pine Mountain" is placed on a thin, round bronze tray (sahariban) with no sand, but this is an archaic form of display and not recommended for exhibition of a modern stone.

Chinese bronze containers used for flower display and incense burning have been adopted for displaying Korean suseok in Southern California-- Jim Greaves could explain & is an important initiator. You can reach him by writing "Guy Jim" as found in each California Aiseki Kai newsletter (available online)-- jimgreaves@roadrunner.com/ 1018 Pacific Street,Unit D, Santa Monica, CA 90405/ (310) 452-3680.

From Indonesia, we see trays made of molded composite material that is finished to look like bronze used widely for public stone exhibitions.

Use whatever enhances presentation of a stone for you or to present a Western viewing stone. I'd comfortably choose a round suiban for a vertically mounted landscape-view stone in a public exhibition; it is consistent with Japanese suiseki practice. As reference, this Japanese website, which requires using Google translate for non-Japanese speakers, includes an example or two of stones fitted in round suiban & commentary.

We share having much more to learn about Japanese practices, which vary. Choose a modest tray which will not overpower your stone in visual dominance. A powerful stone could look best on a somewhat decorated doban.

Hope that helps.

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thank you

Post  an'ya on Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:29 pm

Thank you for your informative answer Chris. Information is always difficult to obtain when one is a beginner. I have more questions of course but don't want to overwhelm this forum, but is it possible to post photos of my suiseki? and if I have different questions, do I start a new thread for each one? Thanks again, an'ya

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Re: re: doban shapes?

Post  Chris Cochrane on Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:19 pm

Hi An'ya... I hope you will share photos, comments and questions. There are tutorials on posting a digital photo in the first (topmost) section of the IBC Forum (see "Forum" tab). You'll find a gallery to test your ability to post a photo & help from moderators & members. People with real names get more attention from some of us, but your question was one not readily answered and it seemed best to attack it.

Knowing your collecting region/state might also extract better responses from people experienced with stones there.

Questions can be bunched or individual. Typically all questions regarding a single or single set of stones get covered in one thread so photos will not be repeated.

Welcome to the IBC Stone Forum!

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thanks again

Post  an'ya on Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:01 pm

Thanks again for the welcome Chris. I think I've managed to upload a photo of my first suiseki display (pending moderator acceptance), with a story on how it came to be. My "real name" (actually my pen name) is an'ya <s>
. . . and I live in the state of Oregon, although originally from Southern California. I hope to learn more on this forum, post more questions and upload more pics, an'ya

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Re: re: doban shapes?

Post  Kev Bailey on Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:30 pm

Picture posts don't need moderator approval, and your total post count is still three, which are all on this thread, so I don't know what happened there. Please re-read the advice on picture posting here http://ibonsaiclub.forumotion.com/testing-posting-images-tutorials-f4/tutorial-on-posting-pics-t243.htm and ask if you have any questions.

Good luck

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