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Post  Tom Simonyi on Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:58 pm

I am still experimenting with different display options for this tree...decided to try a stone. I would welcome comments.

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Post  Nik Rozman on Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:27 pm

Could you send a bigger photo for a better look.

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Post  fiona on Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:44 pm

Nik Rozman wrote:Could you send a bigger photo for a better look.
Nik, if you click on the picture you should get the original pic on servimg which is a decent size for seeing it more clearly.

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Post  Nik Rozman on Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:26 pm

fionnghal wrote:
Nik Rozman wrote:Could you send a bigger photo for a better look.
Nik, if you click on the picture you should get the original pic on servimg which is a decent size for seeing it more clearly.

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Post  mike page on Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:50 pm

Hi Tom
I like your arrangement here. It has the look of an old tree hanging from a cliff. That being the case, I got the feeling that the upper branch of the tree gave it a too heavy appearance for a tree struggling against a difficult environment. I took the liberty of doing a virtual to illustrate my point.

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Post  Velodog2 on Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:25 pm

Nice idea Mike! Perhaps a small amount of jin/shari extending back towards the roots from the cut off branch would not be unattractive.

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Post  Ed Trout on Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:11 am

Tom,

I really like the semi-cascade pine styling, but the pot seems to be a little over-whelming. Have you tried just a simple crescent pot ? That, in my mind anyway, would give more "impact" to the tree itself. But I would love to have it in my garden any day !

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Post  gregb on Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:13 am

The form and texture of pot and rock match, but the colors do not; change the color of the rock so it's the same as the pot or lose the rock altogether and replace with a nice stand for a semi-cascade tree. That's what I'm thinkin' Twisted Evil

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Post  Tom Simonyi on Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:49 pm

Good hearing from you all and thank you...

Mike: A very interesting idea...thanks for the virtual...your point is well taken.

Ed: Thank you for the kind words...Actually the tree is in a crescent pot now that I placed upon another stone...I have been trying different displays for this tree. In an earlier post I showed it on a cut piece of collected locust (the wood was a bit overwhelming according to forum members, which I totally agree with). In that regard I have since contacted a local woodworker considering other options for a more suitable stand, including carving the locust. I just tried the stone in the meantime. Sorry to ramble...

Greg: You make valid points as well, which I have since realized.

I am learning much during this journey.

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Tom

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Post  Tom Simonyi on Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:05 pm

Sorry if this seems like beating a dead horse but I am still intrigued by looking for a suitable stone to display the tree on....I think the color is better on this one...collected sandstone. I also think the size is not too overwhelming for the tree imo.

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Post  Kev Bailey on Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:55 pm

I think this one appears too unstable. A thinner, wider rock or slab would be better IMHO.

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Post  Tom Simonyi on Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:34 pm

Another option...

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Post  Mark on Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:42 pm

Tom,
I do not care for "stone" on stone display. If you are determined to keep it in the rock scoop pot rather than planting directly on , in a stone, perhaps you could commission the potter to create a base of the same clay that did not appear as two separate pieces when displayed together.
Also, with the current low display , you lose the the drama of a cliff hanging cascade. I would ask myself what feeling am I trying to evoke?
Good luck with your quest for a solution.

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Post  Norma on Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:57 pm

Hi Tom,

Just a question ... when you speak about display, is this for a formal show?

If your display is for something less formal such as your garden, you can be adventurous. The tree does need to be raised up in some manner. I've seen just simple black boxes used as pedestals and could even be used in a formal setting. If your show is judged , my experience with a small semi-cascade stand that was decorated with bamboo carving and was determined not formal ,may pose a hurtle for anything less than formal.

By the way, I too like what Mike suggested !! All it needs now is a good but simple display stand.

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Post  Tom Simonyi on Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:10 pm

Hi, Norma: Good to hear from you....

Actually you are right...I am just looking for a natural way to display the tree with my other trees in my garden display area...I need something that will weather the elements as it will be remaining outside all of the time, except when the trees are mulched and protected during the winter months.

I was just experimenting with a stone display and really learned a lot from the input of yourself and other forum members.

I think at this point I am turning from the idea of a stone display in favor of a simple display stand as you have suggested.

Thanks again.

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Post  woodsart on Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:28 pm

Tom,

Very nice Va Pine specimen!!! I seem to enjoy all of the options!! ? Did the pine actually come from Virginia? If so, I am interested in the process/care of the VA Pine. There is that variety in Virginia that I am interested in collecting, but until this thread I have never heard of anyone training one for bonsai.

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Post  Tom Simonyi on Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:43 am

Good day, Robt....actually the pine was not collected in Virginia, but rather in northern West Virginia....regarding its care I have been following a regimen suggested by Vance Wood several years ago which he follows for mugho pine (you can find a reference on the web)....it differs somewhat from the traditional two-needle pine care.

This pix. shows the display option that I have decided upon....the stand was crafted from old redwood growth by Dave Lowman.

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Post  Vance Wood on Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:25 pm

This stand option is the best you have posted; I like it.

You have done well with this Pine, it only gets better every time I see it.

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Va. Pine

Post  woodsart on Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:45 pm

Thanks for the reply, Tom, the Va. Pine flourishes here in Va., also the table mountain Pine, which is west of us. Wonder if yours could be a table mountain Pine? Possibly? To me it is hard to tell the difference, except for the cones. I am excited in collecting one or the other this spring. Thanks, Robt.

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Post  Carolee on Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:29 pm

Although I think all of the feedback is valid, I like the first picture of the pot on the stone. I don't think it overwhelms the eye. I looked at other posts and then came back, several times, and the green of the pine definitely pulls my eye before the stone. For me the 'perfect' display would be the first, with the stone and pot the same color. I like that you are going out of the box!.

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Post  Tom Simonyi on Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:29 pm

I decided to post the tree again after another four years have passed.  This is how it currently looks.  I do like the redwood burl that it sits on.  And btw, Vance....thanks for your last reply in this post I appreciate the kind words...sorry it came four years later!  Hope all is well with you and your family.  Tom

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Post  Twisted Trees on Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:31 pm

Tom Simonyi wrote:I am still experimenting with different display options for this tree...decided to try a stone.  I would welcome comments.

Regards,
Tom
Sorry, but I do not think that rock does anything to enhance the tree.No  The straight horizontal trunk is very distracting. I would suggest removing the upper part as was suggested earlier or hide it by lowering the crown to cover it.

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Post  Twisted Trees on Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:32 pm

Tom Simonyi wrote:I decided to post the tree again after another four years have passed.  This is how it currently looks.  I do like the redwood burl that it sits on.  And btw, Vance....thanks for your last reply in this post I appreciate the kind words...sorry it came four years later!  Hope all is well with you and your family.  Tom
I should have read everything before posting earlier. That is an outstanding solution to the problems I saw.

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Post  augustine on Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:10 am

Wonderful tree.

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pine on rock

Post  abcd on Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:57 am


Wonderfull composition ,don't change the rock, the first composition 4 years ago , was too massive, rocks was too big.

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